TROMBONE-L Digest 2454 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Housecleaning, Round 3 - Sheet Music by "Chris Waage" 2) Re: 2B, etc. by "D.J. Kennedy" 3) Re: Housecleaning, Round 3 - Sheet Music (Roger Hecht) by "Chris Waage" 4) trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight by James Gicking 5) RE: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight by "Jon Moeller" 6) Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight by "Roger Carmichael" 7) Good names, was Re: Fw: Midland CD Club Customer update by Jay Heltzer 8) Re: 2B, etc. by "M & S Walker" 9) B & S trombone by jimandcat@juno.com 10) Conn 40H by jimandcat@juno.com 11) Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight by James Scott 12) Cousins by Walter Barrett 13) Re: B & S trombone by Barry Green 14) Re: B & S trombone by Gabriel Langfur 15) Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight by David Buckley 16) Bass trombone mouthpieces for sale by Joestanko@aol.com 17) Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight by Ralph Bigelow 18) hey pbs is cool --but whats happenin at bones west ??????? by "D.J. Kennedy" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:25:16 -0700 From: "Chris Waage" To: Subject: Housecleaning, Round 3 - Sheet Music Message-ID: <200207181125.AA133300474@trombone.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's the story: I picked up a huge stack of music off eBay, and what I don't need, I'm selling. I'm also cleaning out my personal library of duplicates, as well as things I've had and never used. Everything is in good used condition. All prices do not include postage. Anything that doesn't sell by Saturday goes on eBay. Chris Sheet Music: Tenor Trombone w/Piano: Barat: Andante et Allegro - $4.00 Cimera: Valse Petite - $2.00 David (Mueller): Concertino - $7.00 Galliard: 6 Sonatas Volume II (Fuessl/Brown) - $8.00 Hindemith: Sonata (Solo part only) - $2.00 Jacob: Concerto - $10.00 McKay: Sonata - $8.00 Mozart, arr. Fote: Concerto in Bb, K191 (Rondo) - $4.00 Mozart/Ostrander: Concerto for Bassoon, K191 - $5.00 Ostransky: Concertino - $3.00 Rossini: Cujus Animam - $1.00 Serocki: Sonatina - $15.00 Tanner, Paul: Aria for Trombone - $3.00 Uber: Sonata (trombone part ONLY) - $1.00 Vivaldi, arr. Ostrander: Sonata No. 3 in A minor - $6.00 Wagner arr. Masso: Walther's Prize Song: 1.00 Bass Trombone w/Piano: Bozza: Allegro et Finale - $12.00 Brahms, arr. Little: Five Songs - $6.00 Boerlin: Multi-Moods - $3.00 Dedrick: Lyric Etude - $3.00 Ritter-George: Concerto for Bass Trombone and Orchestra - $10.00 Music Books: Blazehvich (Hunsberger): Clef Studies - $10 Kopprasch: 60 Studies for Trombone, Book 2 - $5.00 Mueller (Brown): Technical Studies for Trombone, Book 3 - $10.00 Tyrrell: 40 Progressive Studies for Trombone - $10.00 ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:15:52 -0500 From: "D.J. Kennedy" To: sloane@batnet.com, "tltltltltltltl forum." Subject: Re: 2B, etc. Message-ID: <3D373E18.F13B2D8D@midwest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey thanks gary i was thinking the 2b//3b were different sloane@batnet.com wrote: > Hi, DJ, > > The 2B and 3B are built on the same frame. > > The outer slides are identical, but the 2B > slides have an extra sleve inside the outers > to mate with the smaller inners; I'm guessing > the same is true for the 2B+. (Now I'm wondering > if the 3B+ uses the same outer slide, maybe with > thinner walls or something.) > > Apart from the small difference in bell diameter > and bend in the neckpipe, I believe they're all > on the same frame. Just the receivers and, maybe, > the neckpipe, are different. > > Don't know about the Benge, though. > > Later... > > Gary ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:04:02 -0700 From: "Chris Waage" To: Subject: Re: Housecleaning, Round 3 - Sheet Music (Roger Hecht) Message-ID: <200207181304.AA133693690@trombone.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The music has been sold. Thanks! Chris ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:04:18 -0400 From: James Gicking To: Subject: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I heard, via a bad telephone connection from the DC area (courtesy of my thoughtful 80 y.o. mother), a PBS broadcast of the NY Phil. w/ Alessi and ? principal tpt of the NY Phil. Wish I could have heard the real thing. Here in Phila, looked like PBS was running a piece of sheep farming or something. Jim ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:44:51 -0500 From: "Jon Moeller" To: "'Trombones and related issues forum.'" Subject: RE: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight Message-ID: <000001c22ec5$e0332b40$310fa8c0@jon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't see it on? http://www.kera.org/tv/default.lasso?date=07/18/2002 maybe its just not in my area -----Original Message----- From: owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu [mailto:owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu] On Behalf Of James Gicking Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 08.04 PM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight I heard, via a bad telephone connection from the DC area (courtesy of my thoughtful 80 y.o. mother), a PBS broadcast of the NY Phil. w/ Alessi and ? principal tpt of the NY Phil. Wish I could have heard the real thing. Here in Phila, looked like PBS was running a piece of sheep farming or something. Jim ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:53:11 -0400 From: "Roger Carmichael" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight Message-ID: <002201c22ec7$0c327c40$2d0b9e40@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That was Alessi and Phillip Smith on trumpet playing a latin number duet that Mizour selected in honor of meeting his wife (to be) in South America. It was/is a nice piece and technically challenging. Roger Carmichael ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gicking" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight > I heard, via a bad telephone connection from the DC area (courtesy of my > thoughtful 80 y.o. mother), a PBS broadcast of the NY Phil. w/ Alessi and ? > principal tpt of the NY Phil. Wish I could have heard the real thing. Here > in Phila, looked like PBS was running a piece of sheep farming or something. > > > > Jim > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:34:59 -0500 From: Jay Heltzer To: glangfur@yahoo.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Good names, was Re: Fw: Midland CD Club Customer update Message-ID: <3D377AD2.FC29B3B3@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While Max wins as far as I am concerned, another one that just seemed to fit is Vic Steelhammer, bass trombonist in L.A. Jay (hey, thats kind of a historic one...) > > Maybe we can convince Max Bonecutter to write a book. I > also know trombonists named Mark Rohr and Hans Bohn. > > Gabe > > ===== > Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. > -- Philip K. Dick > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:03:16 +1000 From: "M & S Walker" To: "Trombone-L" , Subject: Re: 2B, etc. Message-ID: <002e01c22ee1$b1fc0c80$7de93c3f@ozemail.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The outer slides are identical, but the 2B > > slides have an extra sleve inside the outers > > to mate with the smaller inners; Huh?????? I very seriously doubt that this is the case. Making such a beast would be increadibly difficult and expensive. Your talking about a sleeve which is only around .001 to .003 (at most) wall thickness, perfectly fitted inside another tube. Tooling up and the costs to make this would be much greater than simply drawing appropriately sized tubes. Not to mention that the sleeve would be fairly fragile, not something you want inside a trombone outer slide, I wouldn't think. Chances are more likely the stockings are drawn slightly larger to fit the larger outer. But hey, if there's documentation to prove me wrong.......... Cheers Matthew Walker Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia Walker's Instrument Repair, The Brassery. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:05:43 -0700 From: jimandcat@juno.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: B & S trombone Message-ID: <20020719.003301.-440441.5.Jimandcat@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of my high school students showed up after Christmas break with a B & S bass trombone. I am very familiar with their tubas (very large and excellent), but I have never seen a trombone from this German company. It is basically a copy of a Bach 50B20 Bb/F/Gb (with a G slide as well) but with a heavy wall yellow bell. Plays quite well. Anyone familiar with B & S trombones? I couldn't find a mention of them on their website. He said his Mom bought it off the internet from a smaller music store (not one of the big guys like WW & BW or Giardinelli) Jim Prindle ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:59:29 -0700 From: jimandcat@juno.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Conn 40H Message-ID: <20020719.003301.-440441.4.Jimandcat@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A new old student started up with me this week (his wife gave him a gift of 2 months of lessons upon his retirement). He hasn't played for 45 years and still has the instrument he bought used in 1948. It is a Conn 40H (yellow brass, tuning in slide) and seems to be a nice old horn. Very solid bell, good mellow sound. He said he bought it from a pro in Los Angeles. Anyone know about that model? The serial number is 222610, it is in the usual place on the bell section (slide receiver) and also on the waterkey lever (!) Just curious, too lazy to go searching for the Conn serial number list, figured someone out there might have it handy. Jim Prindle ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:51:33 -0600 From: James Scott To: mole2k4@attbi.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight Message-ID: <3D37C505.4119D4E5@ucalgary.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As the ads say - "check your local listings". Our PBS station in Calgary is out of Spokane, Washington, and they're running the "Live from Lincoln Center" on Sunday afternoon (or 5 AM Friday, which I'm taping so I can see it). Different stations squeeze it into their programming at different times, depending on what their local programming needs are. Jim Scott Jon Moeller wrote: > I don't see it on? > http://www.kera.org/tv/default.lasso?date=07/18/2002 > > maybe its just not in my area > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu > [mailto:owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu] On Behalf Of James Gicking > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 08.04 PM > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Subject: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight > > I heard, via a bad telephone connection from the DC area (courtesy of my > thoughtful 80 y.o. mother), a PBS broadcast of the NY Phil. w/ Alessi > and ? > principal tpt of the NY Phil. Wish I could have heard the real thing. > Here > in Phila, looked like PBS was running a piece of sheep farming or > something. > > Jim ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:22:01 -0400 From: Walter Barrett To: Trombone-L , TubaEuph List Subject: Cousins Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi, all- Just wanted to let everyone know that I'll be playing "Cousins" by Herbert L. Clarke this Sunday with the Lehman College Band in "Da Bronx" at 4:00. My wife, Connie Tomaino, will be joining me on the cornet. Admission is free, although offerings of Guinness or Boddington's will be accepted. Hope to see you there! -- Walter Barrett "Everything we know, you know." -Enron CEO Kenneth Lay Yamaha Artist/Clinician Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones Euphonium Bass Trumpet Tuba ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:28:16 -0700 From: Barry Green To: jimandcat@juno.com, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: B & S trombone Message-ID: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Don't know about their trombones, but the trumpet players here in Nashville have gone ape over their c trumpets, very inexpensive, play extremely well and they're ordering Bflats to try as well. Gets my curiousity up as well. Barry Green ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:20:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: B & S trombone Message-ID: <20020719152008.52302.qmail@web10302.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Barry Green wrote: > Don't know about their trombones, but the trumpet players > here in Nashville > have gone ape over their c trumpets, very inexpensive, > play extremely well > and they're ordering Bflats to try as well. Gets my > curiousity up as well. > Barry Green I've heard similar things about the B&S trumpets, although more about the b-flats. I remember hearing that Rayburns has been recommending them as student or step-up horns, since they are priced similarly but play better than most models like that. Gabe ===== And so, may evil beware, and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables. -- The Tick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:47:11 -0400 From: David Buckley To: jgicking@mac.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight Message-ID: <3D38347F.5D5E9306@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was a birthday tribute concert to Kurt Mazur who is 75 featuring soloists from the orchestra. I could not tell from the commentary if it was Mazur's farewell concert or not. Very strange last concert if such was the case. He's a most peculiar but effective conductor. Phil Smith, principal trumpet, and Joe Alessi were first off with a duet by Joe Turrin. Quite interesting and well played. It was an odd concert of bits and pieces, clearly without a whole lot of rehearsal. A very hot night in NY which may have been the cause of a lot of dicey tuning in the woodwinds. Some interesting but not real great horn stuff by the world's biggest horn player. Jim Markey, co-principal, did all the concert except fot Bolero when Joe took over. It was an extremely slow Bolero, seemed to take about 15 minutes, and Joe seemed to be struggling - very surprising. Sorry you missed it. Dave. James Gicking wrote: > I heard, via a bad telephone connection from the DC area (courtesy of my > thoughtful 80 y.o. mother), a PBS broadcast of the NY Phil. w/ Alessi and ? > principal tpt of the NY Phil. Wish I could have heard the real thing. Here > in Phila, looked like PBS was running a piece of sheep farming or something. > > Jim ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:49:42 EDT From: Joestanko@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Bass trombone mouthpieces for sale Message-ID: <30.2a015edd.2a698f16@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_30.2a015edd.2a698f16_boundary" I have the following mouthpieces for sale; I can email digital photos of any of them. Add $3 per for shipping. Schilke 59 - gold plated - very good condition - $40 Schilke 60 custom - fits in slide without leadpipe - rim is more like a 1G than a 60 - silver plated - $75 Stork 1 - gold plated - very good condition - $40 Stork 1 - silver plated - very good condition - $30 Stork 1 custom for no leadpipe - standard model 1 that fits in slide without leadpipe - has extra ring of metal at the bottom of the bowl where the shank starts so it extends the same distance from the end of the slide as a standard mouthpiece. It's a tight fit on my Bach slide, and the stem may have to be taken down slightly on a different slide. This is a one of a kind, silver plate, excellent condition - $85. A digital photo should be emailed on this one if interested; as stated, it may have to be slightly turned down for a proper fit. Remingtom - large shank - excellent condition - silver plate - $20 Joe Stanko ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:20:11 -0700 From: Ralph Bigelow To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: trb/tpt NY Phil - PBS tonight Message-ID: <1UJFIF1TCMLQKQLE2UGWRSOKHXR1Y.3d383c3b@Bigelow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 7/19/2002 8:47:11 AM, David Buckley wrote: >It was a birthday tribute concert to Kurt Mazur who is 75 >featuring soloists from the orchestra. [snip] The program will be aired in Los Angeles on KCET Sunday 7/21 at 1 PM, according to the KCET website. Ralph Bigelow ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:55:05 -0500 From: "D.J. Kennedy" To: rbigelow@akamail.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." , urbie Garcia , Subject: hey pbs is cool --but whats happenin at bones west ??????? Message-ID: <3D386089.7A13CC87@midwest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i heard you got a bunch of hot shots from disney playin w you now --kids that are playing in blast etc my source also reports that you played some great charts saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your just friends cd is fabulous --you got anything cookin [burnin] and someday everybody hopes a foundation can be set up to publish some of your fantasia library ---not everybody has a buncha geniuses and georges you guys are the best in the west !!!!!!!!! oooh i gotta eat a fresh tomato -----yum !!!! i was kinda hopin to blow one of your charts at the itf weekend warriors gig how about it ralphy boy ???? norton !!!!!! Ralph Bigelow wrote: > 7/19/2002 8:47:11 AM, David Buckley > wrote: > > >It was a birthday tribute concert to Kurt Mazur who is 75 > >featuring soloists from the orchestra. > [snip] > > The program will be aired in Los Angeles on KCET Sunday 7/21 > at 1 PM, according to the KCET website. > > Ralph Bigelow ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2454--