Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? by "Brian Frederiksen" 2) Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? by "Fred Hudson" 3) RE: Factory tour by richardt@LEE.ARMY.MIL 4) RE: Factory tour by Gabriel Langfur 5) RE: "Ultrabreathe" ??? by "Galen McQuarrie" 6) RE: Factory tour by Gabriel Langfur 7) Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? by Joseph Green 8) RE: "Ultrabreathe" ??? by "Jon Moeller" 9) [Fwd: ?????about minick]...new williams and bones west by "D.J. Kennedy" 10) A very funny website by wbarrett 11) Jazz theory, improvising, teaching, learning by sabutin 12) FROM THE LISTMONITOR: VIRUS ALERT: Re: A very funny website by "Trombone-L Monitor" 13) Re: FROM THE LISTMONITOR: VIRUS ALERT by Dansatt@aol.com 14) Re: FROM THE LISTMONITOR: VIRUS ALERT: Re: A very funny website by Walter Barrett 15) recordings for trombone (and trumpet) by "John Clutcher" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:06:01 -0700 From: "Brian Frederiksen" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Message-ID: <003b01c210a1$1d2b9610$3101fea9@DESK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C21066.6CB2F010" You can do basically the same thing with a dozen drinking straws. Put all of them in your mouth and inhale and exhale a few times, tke two out and do the same and repeat until only two are left then start adding them two at a time. It does help, great bar trick, I've hustled a few beers from various brass players with a bet that I can improve their breathing from a bar stool. Brian Frederiksen WindSong Press PO Box 146 Gurnee, Illinois 60030 brianf@windsongpress.com www.windsongpress.com Phone 847 223-4586 Fax 847 223-4580 brianf@windsongpress.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Hudson To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Several recent "auctions" on ebay have offered the "Ultrabreathe" with the following description: Introducing the Ultrabreathe, a highly effective DRUG FREE inspiratory muscle trainer which provides an easy and convenient means of increasing the strength and durability of the respiratory muscles. To borrow a title from a regular David Letterman skit - "IS THIS ANYTHING?" -or just another magic "abs" developer? Anybody have any experience? opinion? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=883256835 Fred H ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:43:34 -0500 From: "Fred Hudson" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Message-ID: <004201c210a6$5f5337a0$381298d8@s0024172501> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C2107C.6F3923C0" This would appear to be the preferred approach.:>) Fred H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Frederiksen To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 12:06 PM Subject: Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? You can do basically the same thing with a dozen drinking straws. Put all of them in your mouth and inhale and exhale a few times, tke two out and do the same and repeat until only two are left then start adding them two at a time. It does help, great bar trick, I've hustled a few beers from various brass players with a bet that I can improve their breathing from a bar stool. Brian Frederiksen WindSong Press PO Box 146 Gurnee, Illinois 60030 brianf@windsongpress.com www.windsongpress.com Phone 847 223-4586 Fax 847 223-4580 brianf@windsongpress.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Hudson To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Several recent "auctions" on ebay have offered the "Ultrabreathe" with the following description: Introducing the Ultrabreathe, a highly effective DRUG FREE inspiratory muscle trainer which provides an easy and convenient means of increasing the strength and durability of the respiratory muscles. To borrow a title from a regular David Letterman skit - "IS THIS ANYTHING?" -or just another magic "abs" developer? Anybody have any experience? opinion? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=883256835 Fred H ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:33:01 -0400 From: richardt@LEE.ARMY.MIL To: glangfur@yahoo.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: RE: Factory tour Message-ID: <81F62454EA21B94EA95517180D7303730243FB6D@lee-is-102.lee.army.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C210AD.404E5FE0" Yes, that's what quality used to mean. Inspect the defects out at the end, instead of improving the process to build the quality in. Now we know that's the worst way to do it. We've come a long way in learning this in general manufacturing, but some of the old images linger.Ê That's what I mean by a systematic, theory based quality program. You can do mass market average quality products without it, but if you're going to target the high end there is much to be gained.Ê That Bach guy must have had a hiccup of a big office! Wonder what they do with the scrap now.Ê -----Original Message----- From: Gabriel Langfur [mailto:glangfur@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 1:15 PM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Re: Factory tour --- McFarland's wrote: Quality control used to mean that someone was responsible for screening instruments before they left the factory. I've heard a story (secondhand, of course) about the Bach factory: when the long-time trumpet tester retired about 10 years ago, they emptied his office of literally hundreds of instruments that he had deemed not good enough to sell and flooded the market with them, to meet up with dealer demand. For a period of time, finding a good Bach trumpet was nearly impossible. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Factory tour Message-ID: <20020610190739.60731.qmail@web10304.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- richardt@LEE.ARMY.MIL wrote: > You have design, and you have the ability to consistently > achieve that > design, and they are different concepts. That Bach you > liked might be the > one they produced that matched their ideal design closely > - probably it is. Yes. > If that hand hammered bell is > superior it would be due > to the dimensional or metallurgical changes it produces, > not because it > introduces variability. If it introduces variability, it > implies Yamaha is > throwing away 3 of 4 bells, and I don't believe they do > that.Ê > It's not THAT much variability, but yes, I know Steve Shires doesn't make every bell perfectly, and the ones where the problem is cosmetic rather than structural he will often sell at a discount as "B stock". > You need to know how > much variability is optimal for every piece, I think that's essentially what I was saying - that zero variablility is not as important a goal for some parts of the trombone as others - the process by which a high-quality bell is made introduces more variability than the processes by which valves, for example, are made. Gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:34:03 -0700 From: "Galen McQuarrie" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Message-ID: <89559E4ACC190243A6F92E32380D715C1BFFC0@white.pocketinet.com> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think this is what Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith used in the initial Star Wars Saga. I believe that this is the newest revision. Should be a good deal. It also works for SCUBA diving. (With slight modifications.) Oh, they have very strict quality control and use the latest ISO9000 standards. Yamaha is envious.-- GSM -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Smee [mailto:TSMee@dwpv.com] Sent: Mon 6/10/2002 9:57 AM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Cc: Subject: RE: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Does it use batteries? Look at the picture and you will see from its shape why I ask. Perhaps it induces heavy breathing by 'other' means. ___________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Fred Hudson [mailto:fmhudson@arkansas.net] Sent: June 10, 2002 12:39 PM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Several recent "auctions" on ebay have offered the "Ultrabreathe" with the following description: Introducing the Ultrabreathe, a highly effective DRUG FREE inspiratory muscle trainer which provides an easy and convenient means of increasing the strength and durability of the respiratory muscles. To borrow a title from a regular David Letterman skit - "IS THIS ANYTHING?" -or just another magic "abs" developer? Anybody have any experience? opinion? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=883256835 Fred H ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel Langfur To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: RE: Factory tour Message-ID: <20020610194331.41383.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- richardt@LEE.ARMY.MIL wrote: > Yes, that's what quality used to mean. Inspect the > defects out at the end, > instead of improving the process to build the quality in. > Now we know > that's the worst way to do it. We've come a long way in > learning this in > general manufacturing, but some of the old images linger. >Ê > > That's what I mean by a systematic, theory based quality > program. You can > do mass market average quality products without it, but > if you're going to > target the high end there is much to be gained.Ê > This high-end trombone consumer wants both - I want my instrument built by skilled craftsmen whom I can talk to and who will do all follow-up service themselves; I want them using the best technology available, and I want them to test it before it reaches my hands. I get that from Shires, and that's one of the biggest reasons I bought an instrument from them (Ok, another big reason was that I can drive to their factory in less than an hour). When you talk to players of many other instruments, that's the norm rather than the exception. String players who play modern instruments have relationships with the craftspeople who build them. It's typical for high-end flutes to come out of fairly small shops where the customer can know the exact person who built their mechanism, and in most of those shops, that person does all the service on the instrument. I tend to think (obviously this is only my opinion) that as artists whose tools are our instruments, we are MUCH better off working with small companies than with large corporations. There was a time when Bach was such a company, but no longer. Yamaha, for all of their fine work, doesn't offer that kind of service, except to high-profile players like Doug. It's to his and their credit that they worked together to produce a mass-market instrument with a competitive price tag that meets his specifications. But those aren't MY specifications ;), and for me it's worth the extra money and time to buy an instrument that matches what I want, with the service I want. I've gone past the scope of this discussion a little, but I think it's related. The best, most modern, most efficient, least variable manufacturing techniques take you only so far in creating a work of art or the tools for art - the design has to be right of course, and for many of us, there has to be a great deal of human interaction in the process. I don't think that's just a naive romantic notion. One of the best analogies for this comes from an auto enthusiast friend of mine, who advises people to buy a Honda Civic or Accord if they want a great, trouble-free appliance, like a dishwasher or refrigerator that they never have to think about...but if they want real driving pleasure, a machine with personality, buy a BMW. You'll have to pay more attention to it, but if you're willing to do that it's definitely worth it. Gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:50:40 +0900 From: Joseph Green To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Message-ID: <3D053B4E.6F50@twics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ?Inspiratory muscle training has been used for years to treat chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and some neuromuscular diseases. It might also be useful to some athletes (one study showed some benefit in competitive rowers). I've looked for studies of inspiratory muscle training in wind players but couldn't find any. Caveat emptor. Do some of the Arnold Jacobs breathing aids use added resistance to train inspiratory muscles? JG ++++++++++++++++++ > Subject: "Ultrabreathe" ??? > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:38:44 -0500 > From: "Fred Hudson" > To: "Trombones and related issues forum." > > Several recent "auctions" on ebay have offered the "Ultrabreathe"? > with the following description: > ? > > Introducing the Ultrabreathe, a highly effective DRUG FREE inspiratory > muscle trainer which provides an easy and convenient means of > increasing the strength and durability of the respiratory muscles. > > To borrow a title from a regular David Letterman skit - "IS THIS > ANYTHING?" -or just another magic "abs" developer? > > Anybody have any experience? opinion? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=883256835 > > Fred H > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:54:17 -0500 From: "Jon Moeller" To: Subject: RE: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Message-ID: <000001c210ea$e59c1b80$5c50ee0c@jon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ?Buy a water valve that you would put on the outside of a house at home depot. Adjust the valve to your liking, and breathe breathe breathe. -----Original Message----- From: owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu [mailto:owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Green Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:51 PM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Re: "Ultrabreathe" ??? Inspiratory muscle training has been used for years to treat chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and some neuromuscular diseases. It might also be useful to some athletes (one study showed some benefit in competitive rowers). I've looked for studies of inspiratory muscle training in wind players but couldn't find any. Caveat emptor. Do some of the Arnold Jacobs breathing aids use added resistance to train inspiratory muscles? JG ++++++++++++++++++ > Subject: "Ultrabreathe" ??? > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:38:44 -0500 > From: "Fred Hudson" > To: "Trombones and related issues forum." > > Several recent "auctions" on ebay have offered the "Ultrabreathe"? > with the following description: > ? > > Introducing the Ultrabreathe, a highly effective DRUG FREE inspiratory > muscle trainer which provides an easy and convenient means of > increasing the strength and durability of the respiratory muscles. > > To borrow a title from a regular David Letterman skit - "IS THIS > ANYTHING?" -or just another magic "abs" developer? > > Anybody have any experience? opinion? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=883256835 > > Fred H > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:33:03 -0500 From: "D.J. Kennedy" To: "tltltltltltltl forum." Subject: [Fwd: ?????about minick]...new williams and bones west Message-ID: <3D057D7F.A8DCA3C4@midwest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9A9BEE5B32EFDF70181F72CB" chat about minick and is roy lawler still in biz or not any contact no for him Return-Path: Received: from front2.mail.megapathdsl.net ([66.80.60.30]) by kestrel (Earthlink/Onemain SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 17hzh22xa3NZFlp0 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.36.110.138] (HELO rog) by front2.mail.megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.8) with SMTP id 33801572 for djpens@midwest.net; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:04:11 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c210dc$b0950180$2c02a8c0@rkmlaw.com> From: "Rudy Garcia" To: References: <3D024E0E.120D13A0@midwest.net> Subject: Re: ?????about minick Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:12:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 DJ, Is it a 100h? Let me know and I will give you the skinny. I put $100.00 in Friday's mail to you. I will give you another $100.00 in about a week or so. I made "back-up" copy's of some cd's, I will put them in the mail to you this week along with the Kai book. Bones West gig last week in Yorba Linda, CA for an Art Fair, good gig good PA, nice warm reception from the audience. BW gig on 6/22/02 at a huge retirement home in Seal Beach, CA. Ralph B. fully enjoyed the ITF. He came to BW rehersal raving about the event, and from what I have gathered from the posts on the OTJ, the event was FANTASTIC. I cannot go to Filnad next year, however Ithaca here I come 2004!!!!!!! The old vangaurd really did not enjoy C. Lindberg's performance/antics, I think what he did is great, like Ralph B said, after you have an played ALL the class. standards what is next?? Ralph said his group was amazing. A little quirky for the seemingly uptight t-bone crowd...perhaps...???? Ralph was fully into the Trombones de Costa Rica. Ralph brought the CD back and theses guys are amazing! Ralph said they played the whole concert from MEMORY!!!!!!! How was the Kid that won the Rosolino Award? Did he burn????? I spoke with Richard Chover at Williams last week. I gave him the info you forwarded to me on Oberloh's in Seattle. He seemed into it and he told me he would call them. He also told me Lawlor went out of biz. The FLA. numbers were no good and the website was down. Roy L. has a Mdl. 6 slide that was sent to him and Chover is trying to get it back. Do you have any info on Lawler?? later for now... rg rog@rkmlaw.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.J. Kennedy" To: "urbie Garcia" Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 11:33 AM Subject: ?????about minick > this guy got a larry -any way of dating them ????? > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:40:10 -0400 From: sabutin To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Jazz theory, improvising, teaching, learning Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hello... I have watched w/interest the ongoing threads revolving around jazz. I have much to add, but no time to really sit down and organize what I want to say. However, one of my points would be about how "jazz" was learned say pre-1960s and post-1960s. I ran across this paragraph in an article about djembe, an African drum (and set of drum styles) that is very important to much African music. "There are other problems besides language that expatriate African djembe teachers must surmount. African methods of learning work in Africa: watching, doing, being criticized, revising, and apprenticing. But how can those methods work in weekly lessons or classes with little chance for students to see how djembe players interact with dancers one-on-one? African djembe teachers have had to creatively find new means of transmitting their knowledge to non-African students. This often skews and dilutes the tradition in which they were brought up. Fluid rhythms get simplified and become fixed. Improvisation is kept to a minimum. The ebb and flow of tempo, linked to the heat generated by dancers, is attenuated. The original context in which these rhythms and dances were performed is lost." The key phrase for me is "African methods of learning work in Africa: watching, doing, being criticized, revising, and apprenticing". This is as concise and apt a description of how African music, and indeed ALL primarily ear-based (as opposed to notation based) music is taught and learned. Bluegrass, rhumba, Northern Indian carnatic styles...all the same, and this was the way jazz was taught as well. I was among the first generation of American musicians to actually learn "jazz" in the classroom (Berklee, mid-60s), and I must say that if I hadn't come to NY and RE-learned it, by "watching, doing, being criticized, revising, and apprenticing" on the jazz scene of the Lower East Side, the Cuban/Puerto Rican scene, and in bands playing beneath such great musicians as Jimnmy Knepper, Charles Mingus and Thad Jones in the '70s (people who themselves learned how to play in the older ways), I wouldn't know much about the music. Not really... Certain knowledge can only be passed by direct contact. Where the 8th note REALLY goes, how flat IS that blue note...and the "being criticized' part is a very deep and important aspect of the whole process. In situations like this, one is "criticized" in many ways...a look, a stance, a quick comment that sinks in where all the books fail, the reward and punishment of being hired or not being hired, the occasional physical threat (as in "Get off the bandstand, boy, 'fore I kick your ass !!!")...are irreplaceable. Gotta go to work...dig it. S. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:00:55 -0700 From: "Trombone-L Monitor" To: Subject: FROM THE LISTMONITOR: VIRUS ALERT: Re: A very funny website Message-ID: <200206110600.AA10617096@trombone.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This e-mail contained the W32.Klez virus. For full details, visit: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.h@mm.html Please note: Walter Barrett DID NOT send out this message. The W32.Klez virus has a very nasty new feature (previously discussed on the trombone-l) where it will choose an e-mail address from the infected computer's Outlook or Outlook Express to use as the sender's address. It then duplicates itself and sends to every e-mail address in the address book and stored e-mails on the infected computer. There is one VERY SIMPLE method to solve this problem, and that is to keep your virus preferences up-to-date. Symantec has had virus removal and protection tools available for this virus since April 17, 2002. McAffee, I am sure, has as well. There are two addition recommended steps: 1. Turn off the preview window in Outlook Express. Even though you are are only "previewing" the message, it will still activate any virus payload attached to the message. 2. Don't open messages that are suspect. Yes, it would be easy to argue that "I am not a computer person, and I don't think like a computer person, and I don't have time to mess with all this virus nonsense." Well, if you are using a computer, you are now officially a computer person. Computer maintenance (backup, defrag, updating security patches and antivirus software, etc.) is every bit as important to your computer as changing the oil is to your car. You may not be a "car person," but if you choose NOT to maintain your vechicle, you will pay the price. This is the same with your computer. Yes, I am aware that I am coming across with quite a hard edge on this, but I have just completed sorting through the hundreds of error message this virus created. Please take the time to maintain your computer's antivirus software. LM ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:11:30 EDT From: Dansatt@aol.com To: trombonel-monitor@trombone.org, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: FROM THE LISTMONITOR: VIRUS ALERT Message-ID: <94.27969990.2a375102@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_94.27969990.2a375102_boundary" I also received an email with a .zip attachment called "Of Service" from a list member. I believe that this contains a virus as well. Dan ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:05:35 -0400 From: Walter Barrett To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: FROM THE LISTMONITOR: VIRUS ALERT: Re: A very funny website Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thus spake, not Zarathustra, but Trombone-L Monitor... > This e-mail contained the W32.Klez virus. For full details, visit: > http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.h@mm.html > > Please note: Walter Barrett DID NOT send out this message. The > W32.Klez virus has a very nasty new feature (previously discussed > on the trombone-l) where it will choose an e-mail address from > the infected computer's Outlook or Outlook Express to use as the > sender's address. It then duplicates itself and sends to every > e-mail address in the address book and stored e-mails on the > infected computer. Glad to hear it wasn't me! I didn't think it was me, anyway, because I have a Mac, and this one doesn't work on a Mac. I got something similar the other day that said it was from Tom Izzo (jeanvaljean), but Tom keeps his anti-virus current, and scans incoming AND outgoing mail. Ah, the price of fame... Walter Barrett "If I ever lose my mind, I hope some honest person will find it and take it to the lost and found." -George Carlin Yamaha Artist/Clinician Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones Euphonium Bass Trumpet Tuba ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:09:31 -0400 From: "John Clutcher" To: Subject: recordings for trombone (and trumpet) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_E2BED4B5.4B2A526C" Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Description: HTML I'm trying to find recordings of two pieces for a district band tryout. One is for trumpet, the other is for trombone. I was not successful in finding a recording when contacting TowerÊRecords, BMG or Columbia House. Does anyone have any suggestions, including music minus one? Thanks John Trumpet - "Allegro de Concours" - DeBoeck Trombone - "Sonata for Trombone and Piano" - Davidson ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2417--