Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:04:14 CDT Sender: owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu From: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: TROMBONE-L digest 2385 X-RCPT-TO: Status: U TROMBONE-L Digest 2385 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) UK Trip--playing opportunities? by Atlbrvsnt@aol.com 2) Shameless Plug Dep't by Walter Barrett 3) Re: Arthur Pryor by "David Guion" 4) Re: Trombonia by MikeSuter@aol.com 5) Re: Arthur Pryor by MikeSuter@aol.com 6) Re: TROMBONE-L digest 2384 by "Jason Akai" 7) RE: Thanks for Anthem Leads by "Roger L. Karren" 8) Re: TROMBONE-L by "Joe Sellmansberger" 9) RE: DJ bashing and hypocrisy by "Gary Maxwell" 10) Re: TROMBONE-L by sabutin 11) RE: Arthur Pryor by "Marple, Richard L COL BAMC-Ft Sam Houston" 12) Virus "Spoofing" (was Re: TROMBONE-L) by "Trombone-L Monitor" 13) Re: Virus "Spoofing" (was Re: TROMBONE-L) by "Fred Hudson" 14) Alexander tubas by Tony 15) RE: Arthur Pryor by "Tom Izzo" 16) Re: $3000 Sop revisited by Philbne@aol.com 17) repost-UK trip by Atlbrvsnt@aol.com 18) The importance of being nice by "Trbnplyr" 19) Re: Arthur Pryor by "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" 20) Dentonians, A Question by "Thomas Smee" 21) ITA festival...see you there? by sabutin 22) More "ITA festival...see you there?" by sabutin ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 13:05:02 EDT From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: UK Trip--playing opportunities? Message-ID: <119.1147e6ab.2a0c063e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello List, I am going on a university-sponsored study abroad trip to Oxford this summer. I'll be there from 11 July through 11 August. I'd like to find some sort of playing opportunity while I'm over there...maybe someone who can give me a few lessons, or a band of some sort I could sit in with while I'm there. Can any of you listers from the UK help? Thanks, Tommy Cox University of Alabama ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 13:53:03 -0400 From: Walter Barrett To: Trombone-L , TubaEuph List Cc: Ben Tomaino , John Palatucci , Alan Raph , Eric Turner , Subject: Shameless Plug Dep't Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi, all! I'll be making an appearance as guest soloist with the Rockland County Community Band at their next concert, which is Friday, May 17, 8:00. It all happens at Rockland Community College, 145 College Rd., Suffern, NY in the Creative Arts Building. I'll be playing the Curnow "Rhapsody for Euphonium", and a piece written for me by ex-Kenton trombonist Milt Kabak. His piece is called "Batch of Bones," and I get to play alto, bass, and tenor trombone in it. (Not all at once...) Fellow lister Larry Zaidan is the conductor. Stop by and say hi! Walter Barrett Appologgiatura: an ornament you regret after playing it. Approximatura: a series of notes played by a performer and not intended by the composer, especially when disguised with an air of "I meant to do that." Approximento: a musical entrance that is somewhat close to the correct pitch. Yamaha Artist/Clinician Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones Euphonium Bass Trumpet Tuba ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:57:24 -0700 From: "David Guion" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." , Subject: Re: Arthur Pryor Message-ID: <200205091057.AA14156264@trombone.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have been at my new job for a week now, and my computer is *almost* set up so I can use it. Maybe this afternoon or tomorrow, I will actually be able to use my campus email and sign back on to my library lists! Ah, well, it's good to get back to my trombone fix. Bear with me. I have no idea how this trombone.org account will make things look. This could be quite an adventure for all of us. Here goes: Mike Alford wrote >Greetings folks, >I was going through Paul Bierley's Sousa biography and found this interesting >bit with a puzzler -- at least for me -- about Pryor's playing. On page 177, >Bierley says "His [Pryor's] specialties were an extraordinary technique, a >unique rapid vibrato, three-note chords, and resounding pedal notes." > >My question: what is meant by "three-note chords" here? I have heard claims >in the past about players who could play notes of two different pitches at >once, but the only time I witnessed a demonstration of such a claim left me >with a poor impression of the musicality of the sound. Is this something of >the same nature, or just what is this all about? Three-note chords on a brass instrument is a gimmick that has been around at least since the time Carl Maria von Weber introduced them into his horn music. As just one example, if you play a note on the trombone while humming the note an octave and a third higher, assuming of course that the interval is in tune, the combination will generate a difference tone that essentially fills in the fifth. That is, play F; hum a; hear c as well. I have heard Stuart Dempster play a double-stop cadenza from some Saint Saens showpiece for violin. I have always thought it was more than a gimmick than anything of real musical substance, but then a lot of what Pryor was best known for was pretty gimmicky. I understand that he preferred playing hymns and slow melodies to his virtuoso display pieces, but you can't build much of a reputation that way! Now let's see. Will my signature file get added to this? David Guion -- *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* David Guion "Television is a medium, so-called because it is neither rare nor well done."--Ernie Kovacs david@trombone.org *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* -- ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:16:46 EDT From: MikeSuter@aol.com To: sctroy@erols.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Trombonia Message-ID: <3a.268abc22.2a0c170e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> <<>> Jeez Steve, There isn't a pedal Bb in the entire tune. It's part of the "Trombania Suite" written by Bob Curnow for my group Slidewerke. We recorded it on our Sea Breeze CD "Trombania". Right now the CD is temporarily out of print, but it'll be back by the end of this Summer. When it's back, check with Sea Breeze (seabreeze.com) or Bob Curnow (sierramusic.com) or Hickey's Music to get a copy. The music is available from all three sources as well. Golly gee, despite my best efforts, this turned into a plug. Sorry. No, really, I'm sorry. Honest, I'm sorry. D'ya wanna buy a bridge? All The Best, Mike Suter ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:27:42 EDT From: MikeSuter@aol.com To: david@trombone.org, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Arthur Pryor Message-ID: <134.e0fcece.2a0c199e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys, << I have always thought it was more than a gimmick than anything of real musical substance, >> I always felt the same until I heard a couple of masters do it (I'm not gonna mention their names because this always leads to dissension and irrelevant arguments). But three-note, properly balanced chords, and even moving lines are possible. Can I do it? Nope. But I've always believed that as long as one person can do something, it's proof that it's possible. After that it's just a matter of application for the rest of us. All The Best, Mike Suter Slidewerke PrimeSlide Design ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 18:32:02 +0000 From: "Jason Akai" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: TROMBONE-L digest 2384 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Doug The funniest part is that book doesnt have Hungary ...or Trombonia Ciao Jas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:45:41 -0600 From: "Roger L. Karren" To: , "'Trombones and related issues forum.'" Subject: RE: Thanks for Anthem Leads Message-ID: <000001c1f789$bb830270$0100a8c0@rlkarren> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From my experience on the Service Bands, it's the Navy Band or The Marine Band, "the President's Own", that is the official custodian of all "official" National Anthems for the USA, (I can't remember for sure which it is). These arrangements are even labeled the "Official Anthem of (Insert country here)". I also know that since they are Government documents they are available free of charge. They may require you to pay shipping for a copy. The benefit is that you can be assured that the edition that they have available is the most accurate and accepted version, thus eliminating the unfortunate circumstance of a discontinued/incorrect Anthem. Contact their respective Library for more information. (in case I am mistaken in any way.) Roger P.S. For what it's worth, any Service Band library is government property. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:08:36 -0500 From: "Joe Sellmansberger" To: Subject: Re: TROMBONE-L Message-ID: <001e01c1f78c$ec7112c0$f0654d0c@sellmansberger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a virus emailed to me via "sabutin" 's email address book. ' just thought some of you might like to know. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:13:17 -0700 From: "Gary Maxwell" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: DJ bashing and hypocrisy Message-ID: <659829993461CA49942D1312DE343691830A4C@edcenmail1.bcsd.k12.ca.us> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1F78D.92F594F6" "And as to Gary's reference to "that time of the year", the temperature soared to 12 degrees (centigrade) in Glasgow today. Still wearing my long johns." So spaketh Adrian D. ============================================================================== In that case, retirement in the Ancestral Castle, may be out of the question. Longjohns under me kilts, just won't do! I no longer have a plastic mpc. either. Gary \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Drover [mailto:slide.rule@adios.co.uk] Sent: Thu 5/9/2002 8:57 AM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Cc:ÊÊÊÊ Subject: Re: DJ bashing and hypocrisy From: "Jeff Albert" > I find it odd that some of us get so worked up about DJ's writing style. Hey, don't get me wrong. I like DJ's style. I just don't understand what he's saying. But then, I don't understand William Shakespeare either. Everyone is entitled to his/her own eccentricities. And as to Gary's reference to "that time of the year", the temperature soared to 12 degrees (centigrade) in Glasgow today. Still wearing my long johns. A. Adrian Drover ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:11:07 -0400 From: sabutin To: sellmansberger@worldnet.att.net Cc: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: TROMBONE-L Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I have a virus emailed to me via "sabutin" 's email address book. ' just thought some of you might like to know. ====== I have received a number of viruses the last few days, but opened none of them. They are all deleted, as far as I know. What is this virus called? I use a Mac, most viruses are PC specific, and my antivirus software finds nothing. S. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:10:20 -0500 From: "Marple, Richard L COL BAMC-Ft Sam Houston" To: "'MikeSuter@aol.com'" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Arthur Pryor Message-ID: <587F49FABBEDD411A68F00A0C9EA313B5FD2B1@dasmthkhn561.amedd.army.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1F78D.29BCE820" I'll mention a name. Ron Wilkins does this on his CD "Tribute to the Masters" in the cut 'Round Midnight. It's my favorite cut of the CD and it's amazing what your ear will put in given the chord structure. Ron does a lot of singing in his performances so that probably helps his technique. Rick Marple San Antonio TX =============== Hi Guys, << I have always thought it was more than a gimmick than anything of real musical substance, >> I always felt the same until I heard a couple of masters do it (I'm not gonna mention their names because this always leads to dissension and irrelevant arguments). But three-note, properly balanced chords, and even moving lines are possible. Can I do it? Nope. But I've always believed that as long as one person can do something, it's proof that it's possible. After that it's just a matter of application for the rest of us. All The Best, Mike Suter Slidewerke PrimeSlide Design ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:28:35 -0700 From: "Trombone-L Monitor" To: , Subject: Virus "Spoofing" (was Re: TROMBONE-L) Message-ID: <200205091228.AA18022888@trombone.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please visit the link below: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.gen@mm.html The latest variants of the w32.klez virus incorporates a nasty new trick referred to as "spoofing." The virus culls e-mail addresses from your e-mail software (address book, stored messages, etc.), then randomly chooses one of these addresses to use as the sender's e-mail address when it sends the message. In the situation which was referred to in this e-mail, there is no possibility that Sabutin spread the virus as it attacks only Windows-based computers. The virus merely "spoofed" the sender address. There is a very simplection that must be taken: if you use a computer which connects to the Internet, you MUST use anti-virus software. You MUST keep the virus definitions current by updating them on a weekly basis. A nuisance? Perhaps a small one. Have you ever had to clean up a computer after a severe virus problem? Let it suffice to say that it is a much bigger nuisance than updating virus definitions once a week. For further information, please visit one of these web sites, or your anti-virus software site of preference: Symantic Security Response: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/ McAffee: http://vil.mcafee.com/default.asp? LM ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: sabutin Reply-To: sabutin@mindspring.com Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:11:07 -0400 >>I have a virus emailed to me via "sabutin" 's email address book. >> >>' just thought some of you might like to know. > > >====== > > I have received a number of viruses the last few days, but opened >none of them. They are all deleted, as far as I know. > > What is this virus called? I use a Mac, most viruses are PC >specific, and my antivirus software finds nothing. > > > S. > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 16:06:49 -0500 From: "Fred Hudson" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Virus "Spoofing" (was Re: TROMBONE-L) Message-ID: <007501c1f79d$70bc4f80$1a1298d8@s0024172501> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have received a number of e-mails with the Klez attached over the past three weeks mostly from sources I did not recognize. Fortunately I keep my Norton AV up to date so these messages were intercepted and quarantined. The only one from a recognizable source was from a friend who A) Did not have me in her address book and B) kept her Norton AV up to date, so this is first hand experience with the "spoofing" feature. Keeping the Anti-virus software up to date is no trouble at all if you subscribe to the automatic live up-date. For an annual fee of $30.00 or so Symantec will automatically send updates once a week with no further action on your part after coming on-line. I'm sure MacAfee has the same service. This is little enough to pay compared to the cost of cleaning up an infected disc. You must be sure that your AV is set up on your incoming mail server. If your software was pre-installed when you bought your computer you will have to do this manually. If this is not done your incoming e-mail messages may not be scanned. "Be Careful Out There" Fred Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trombone-L Monitor" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Virus "Spoofing" (was Re: TROMBONE-L) > Please visit the link below: > http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.gen@mm.html > > The latest variants of the w32.klez virus incorporates a nasty new > trick referred to as "spoofing." The virus culls e-mail addresses > from your e-mail software (address book, stored messages, etc.), > then randomly chooses one of these addresses to use as the > sender's e-mail address when it sends the message. > > In the situation which was referred to in this e-mail, there is no > possibility that Sabutin spread the virus as it attacks only > Windows-based computers. The virus merely "spoofed" the > sender address. > > There is a very simplection that must be taken: if you use a > computer which connects to the Internet, you MUST use anti-virus > software. You MUST keep the virus definitions current by updating > them on a weekly basis. A nuisance? Perhaps a small one. > > Have you ever had to clean up a computer after a severe virus > problem? Let it suffice to say that it is a much bigger nuisance > than updating virus definitions once a week. > > For further information, please visit one of these web sites, or your > anti-virus software site of preference: > Symantic Security Response: > http://securityresponse.symantec.com/ > > McAffee: > http://vil.mcafee.com/default.asp? > > LM > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: sabutin > Reply-To: sabutin@mindspring.com > Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:11:07 -0400 > > >>I have a virus emailed to me via "sabutin" 's email address > book. > >> > >>' just thought some of you might like to know. > > > > > >====== > > > > I have received a number of viruses the last few days, but > opened > >none of them. They are all deleted, as far as I know. > > > > What is this virus called? I use a Mac, most viruses are PC > >specific, and my antivirus software finds nothing. > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:35:45 -0700 From: Tony To: Pete and Megumi Link , Dick Akright , Greg Bergantz , Subject: Alexander tubas Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Arrived today. I got two. I got a large bore CC, Model 173 Goldbrass $7300. Nice big warm open sound. And I got a Model 166. Double tuba in F and CC. Brass, unlacquered. It goes for $8100. Tony Clements ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 00:34:32 -0500 From: "Tom Izzo" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Arthur Pryor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C1F7BA.7427D5F0" This is just multiphonics. There are times to use it, & times one shouldn't. I doubt he might admit to it now, but many years ago Dan Parentoni used to play "Lida Rose" The QUARTET on the the Tuba. Tom 'll mention a name. Ron Wilkins does this on his CD "Tribute to the Masters" in the cut 'Round Midnight. It's my favorite cut of the CD and it's amazing what your ear will put in given the chord structure. Ron does a lot of singing in his performances so that probably helps his technique. Rick Marple San Antonio TX =============== Hi Guys, << I have always thought it was more than a gimmick than anything of real musical substance, >> I always felt the same until I heard a couple of masters do it (I'm not gonna mention their names because this always leads to dissension and irrelevant arguments). But three-note, properly balanced chords, and even moving lines are possible. Can I do it? Nope. But I've always believed that as long as one person can do something, it's proof that it's possible. After that it's just a matter of application for the rest of us. All The Best, Mike Suter Slidewerke PrimeSlide Design ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:03:51 EDT From: Philbne@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: $3000 Sop revisited Message-ID: <7e.275395dd.2a0cd8e7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7e.275395dd.2a0cd8e7_boundary" In a message dated 5/8/2002 1:30:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cnowicke@indiana.edu writes: On Wed, 8 May 2002, Gary Maxwell wrote: > > I guess she finally believed me - to a point - that she was not going to sell at that price. Same day it was commented on here, Chuck "Nothing Gets by Him on the Internet" Guzis saw two others on eBay. One was even the same model... Carole Nowicke cnowicke@indiana.edu Actually she's not far off. I sold a 1918 Conn Soprano trombone that I picked up in a pawn shop for $65 and sold for $625 to a private seller. (The pawn shop owner told me it was a "child's trombone"!!!!!) Ê If someone wants it bad enough they'll buy it even at the exorbitant price. Phil Keen L.A. freelance ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:38:24 EDT From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: repost-UK trip Message-ID: <188.7b53f3a.2a0d1940@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry if y'all have already gotten this once, but I'm resending it, because even though I did receive it myself, it was the last Trombone-L posting I received from yesterday afternoon until this morning. Hello List, I am going on a university-sponsored study abroad trip to Oxford this summer. I'll be there from 11 July through 11 August. I'd like to find some sort of playing opportunity while I'm over there...maybe someone who can give me a few lessons, or a band of some sort I could sit in with while I'm there. Can any of you listers from the UK help? Thanks, Tommy Cox University of Alabama P.S. In contrast to what some others have said, I would like to personally thank D.J. Kennedy for making my final exam week more interesting with the colorful style of his posts. It may be hard to understand to some, but it's nothing compared to the Middle English I had to decipher in Honors Early English Literature last semester! ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:32:03 -0400 From: "Trbnplyr" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: The importance of being nice Message-ID: <001e01c1f82f$74941e20$345b4d0c@bigshark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1F80D.ECDBDDE0" Dear List, ÊÊ This is a subject that comes up time and time again. I don't mind confessing that I delete probably 99% of the mail thatÊI get from the list, unless it happens to be a subject that really interests me or one to which I feel that I can respond intelligently. However, the listmonitor has had to remind us to keep things civil a couple of times recently. ÊÊÊOver the past couple of weeks, I've had the great pleasure of meeting over the telephone a couple of former players in major orchestras because I was trying to find a recording,Êand both of themÊI have found to be just absolutely wonderful people. They weren't stingy with their time, and if I've learned nothing else, I've learned that being a very nice person and a world class player go hand in hand. I know thatÊI used to be somewhat of a bruteÊwhen teaching, especially ifÊI didn't feel that a student was making very good progress. I've learned that in both the playing arena and also the teaching arena that you can get a lot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. In fact, every trombonist that I have met either through e-mail or in person thatÊis truly at the top of their profession is a genuinely nice person. If they're not, then youÊdon't have to look very far to find some serious holes in their playing, because if you are truly passionate about your art, then your personality does come through your playing.Ê ÊÊÊI realize that there are a number of lurkers on this list that play for recreational enjoyment, and that is fine. In fact, we have a very large cross section of levels and abilities, and I think that's great. ThisÊlist is a marvelous resource, and it's hard to believe that I've been a part of theÊthis virtual community for about 6 years. As a matter of fact, the last time that the ITF was in Nashville (in the 80's--before the internet really got hold and e-mail wasn't very prevalent) it was nice to meet up with friends thatÊwould beÊthere in Nashville, and this last time, in 2001, it was even nicer to put names together with faces. So, in a very positive way, this list has done a wonderful service to all of us closer together, and unfortunately, I won't be able to get to Denton in a few weeks, because there are some absolutely fabulous players that are going to be there that I would like to meet face to face, to hear them play, and just to talk shop.ÊAnd for the most part, we are really nice to each other on this list, but it's something that all need to constantly remember. I know thatÊI don't want to offend anyone, and if I do, just let me know, and I'll do whatever I have to in order to make it right. That doesn't mean that you have to be a doormat, or that you have to accept a lower standard of playing, but if you're goingÊsay something negative about someone's playing, then find a nice way to say it. or don't say it at all. If you're going to disagree with someone, then try to do it gracefully. I've been sitting next to our principal player for 15 years, and there are times that we do disagree about some things, but we never let our differences interfere with the musical product, or our friendship. On the other hand,Êwe have had some very talented players come through here that weren't nice people, and they always were finding something wrong, and they ended up leaving after a rather short period of time. I always wonder in cases like that, " Will playing with a higher caliber of ensemble fix their basic unpleasantness?" If so, great--if not, then no matter how fine the musicÊis, or how much money they earn, they'll never be happy.Ê ÊÊÊ I trust that everyone has a very nice day--need to catch up on a lot of things myself. Paul Kemp Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.comÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ ÊÊ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:52:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" To: David Guion Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Arthur Pryor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 May 2002, David Guion wrote: > Three-note chords on a brass instrument is a gimmick that has been > around at least since the time Carl Maria von Weber introduced them into > his horn music. As just one example, if you play a note on the trombone Here's a comment from Walter F. Smith about visiting Henry Distin in his shop in Philadelphia in 1887 (I doubt Walter knew the von Weber): "And he while showing us over his shop stepped first from one instrument to another blowing upon all alike with that wonderful power and facility which makes him today the most remarkable man of the age in this respect alone. He played "The Last Rose of Summer" in a way to excite admiration from the most critical upon a Tuba and immediately followed it by blowing double notes upon the instrument making it sound like a huge organ." Henry Distin must not have been in tune enough to get the chord. Carol Nowicke cnowicke@indiana.edu ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:05:11 -0400 From: "Thomas Smee" To: "Trombones and related issues forum. (E-mail)" Subject: Dentonians, A Question Message-ID: <85E12261CCD688478E5FFD36348A5979035C29@torxchng2.dwpv.com> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It looks like the Radisson hotel is very close to the bars, ITF venues, bars, restaurants, bars and other essentials, like bars. As such, I'm assuming there would be little need to rent a car. Is this correct? Thanks. Tom ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:41:35 -0400 From: sabutin To: jjlist@yahoogroups.com Cc: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: ITA festival...see you there? Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi all... Just a little note to say I'll be at the ITA Festival, at what Gary Greenhoe's wife Glenda has referred to as the "Greenhoe/Sauer/Burtis" booth. (Gary's exhibit, really...I'll be there w/my book, Ralph Sauer w/his brace, and Gary says Bill Reichenbach might be around some too.) Please drop by and say hello...it's always nice to put a face to often read names, and it's doubly nice to meet someone you kinda know in the midst of one of these festivals of strangers. Later... Sam Burtis ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2385 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:53:06 -0400 From: sabutin To: jjlist@yahoogroups.com Cc: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: More "ITA festival...see you there?" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1191076504==_ma============" I'm a dummy...I neglected to mention that Kevin Saunders, a fine trombonist from the San Antonio area and a good friend of Gary's, will also be at the booth. S. ===== Hi all... Just a little note to say I'll be at the ITA Festival, at what Gary Greenhoe's wife Glenda has referred to as the "Greenhoe/Sauer/Burtis" booth. (Gary's exhibit, really...I'll be there w/my book, Ralph Sauer w/his brace, and Gary says Bill Reichenbach might be around some too.) Please drop by and say hello...it's always nice to put a face to often read names, and it's doubly nice to meet someone you kinda know in the midst of one of these festivals of strangers. Later... 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