TROMBONE-L Digest 2260 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re:Rob McConnell Charts by "Denver Seifried" 2) Re: In Sports, Over-Analysis Leads to Paralysis.....Perhaps music also? by Gary Sloane 3) Re:Rob McConnell Charts by Craig Parmerlee 4) Re: Rob McConnell Charts by alex iles 5) Re:Rob McConnell Charts by "Moran, Doug - Denison" 6) Interpreting the national anthem by Todd Jonz 7) Trombonist jokes by Todd Jonz 8) Re: Trombonist jokes by "Daniel Pliskin" 9) RE: Trombonist jokes by "Jeffrey Albert" 10) Puzzle time by Todd Jonz 11) RE: Trombonist jokes by "Aaron Roth" 12) Re: Interpreting the national anthem by Craig Parmerlee 13) RE: Interpreting the national anthem by "Richard Bartkus" 14) Re: SS Banner/Goldman Band by ALFORDMB@aol.com 15) Re: Goldman Band by Douglas Yeo 16) Re: Trombonist jokes by "Steve Beck" 17) Re: Trombonist jokes by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 18) Re: Interpreting the national anthem by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 19) Re: Puzzle time by Dan Kuester 20) Re: Interpreting the national anthem by "Richard Johnson" 21) RE: Trombonist jokes by silversonic@att.net 22) My newest project by "Paul Kemp Jr" 23) Re: Trombonist jokes by "Joe L. Norcross" 24) Boston Pops scene by Douglas Yeo 25) fw: re. New Years Eve by Listmonitor Trombone-L 26) Re: Interpreting the national anthem by "Gary D. Maxwell" 27) Happy Birthday, Gary Maxwell! by Chris Waage 28) Re: Trombonist jokes by "Gary D. Maxwell" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:11:53 -0500 From: "Denver Seifried" To: "trombone list" Subject: Re:Rob McConnell Charts Message-ID: <000701c1954b$4b1a86c0$e33b1cd8@jdoggs-comp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rod, Check with former Stan Kenton arranger, Bob Curnow, and his publishing company Sierra Music. Just put Sierra Music into a search engine or try Bob Curnow's name. We play quite a few of the Rob's charts in the Dayton Jazz Orchestra. I hope your band has about two heavy hitter lead trumpet players, as the lead trumpet parts are just absolute killers, as they are very high and go on forever in the high range. All of his charts are masterpieces of big band arranging. Good luck with these charts! Denny Seifried Bass Trombone-Dayton Jazz Orchestra & Springfield(OH) Symphony Adjunct trombone-Wittenberg Univ. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:32:13 -0800 From: Gary Sloane To: "Daniel Pliskin" Cc: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: In Sports, Over-Analysis Leads to Paralysis.....Perhaps music also? Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dan, you may indeed be a deluded tinker, or even a wee scientist; maybe some of the "psychologists/ physiologists/whatever" on the list can comment. On the other hand, you nailed the marketing part. So go easy on we scientists. We donât know that weâre really just deluded tinkers. And until the technology sector actually hits bottom, theyâll continue to pay us exorbitant amounts of money for generating more useless crap, so that marketing folk can convince you that you DEFINITELY NEED IT in order to finally have great sex. DanP -- Gary Sloane "Never take anyone's advice." sloane@batnet.com --George Bernard Shaw ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:22:13 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re:Rob McConnell Charts Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020104152110.01ee6b60@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I looked at http://www.sierramusic.com/catalog.htm I didn't see anything I recognized as Rob McConnell charts, but that could be my lack of knowledge. Can you please advise further? Thanks, Craig At 01:11 PM 1/4/2002 -0500, Denver Seifried wrote: Rod, Check with former Stan Kenton arranger, Bob Curnow, and his publishing company Sierra Music. Just put Sierra Music into a search engine or try Bob Curnow's name. We play quite a few of the Rob's charts in the Dayton Jazz Orchestra. I hope your band has about two heavy hitter lead trumpet players, as the lead trumpet parts are just absolute killers, as they are very high and go on forever in the high range. All of his charts are masterpieces of big band arranging. Good luck with these charts! Denny Seifried Bass Trombone-Dayton Jazz Orchestra & Springfield(OH) Symphony Adjunct trombone-Wittenberg Univ. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 12:52:25 -0800 From: alex iles Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Rob McConnell Charts Message-ID: <3C3615D4.EDF4C451@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Rod, Try Dan Beher at Walrus Music www.walrusmusic.com ..you can search by composer or title. Dan publishes several of Rob's classic charts...[including "Tribute to Art Fern" and "Runaway Hormones"]. Good luck... Alex Iles Craig Parmerlee wrote: > I looked at http://www.sierramusic.com/catalog.htm > > I didn't see anything I recognized as Rob McConnell charts, but that could > be my lack of knowledge. Can you please advise further? > > Thanks, > Craig > > At 01:11 PM 1/4/2002 -0500, Denver Seifried wrote: > >Rod, > >Check with former Stan Kenton arranger, Bob Curnow, and his publishing > >company Sierra Music. Just put Sierra Music into a search engine or try Bob > >Curnow's name. We play quite a few of the Rob's charts in the Dayton Jazz > >Orchestra. I hope your band has about two heavy hitter lead trumpet players, > >as the lead trumpet parts are just absolute killers, as they are very high > >and go on forever in the high range. All of his charts are masterpieces of > >big band arranging. > > > >Good luck with these charts! > >Denny Seifried > >Bass Trombone-Dayton Jazz Orchestra & Springfield(OH) Symphony > >Adjunct trombone-Wittenberg Univ. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:59:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Moran, Doug - Denison" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re:Rob McConnell Charts Message-ID: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is one chart in this link: http://www.cyberjaz.com/bigband/limited.htm (Now don't go nuts over the bass bone feature by Wilfred Roberts) When I searched at JW Peppers web site, it appears that all of the Hal Leonard (formerly Jenson?) charts are P.O.P. - so you'd have to find those from a someone selling their copy. Looking at Stanton's Sheet Music, an on-line search returned 17 charts, and these look like the more recent. (http://www.stantons.com/) If you call Stanton's to order, ask for Ben Huntoon and tell him Doug sent you. This was from about 5 minutes of effort, on-line only. I bet there are more out there. Doug Moran morand@denison.edu PS - neat "interview" with Rob here: http://www.btinternet.com/~j.r.killoch/brass.htm On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > I looked at http://www.sierramusic.com/catalog.htm > > I didn't see anything I recognized as Rob McConnell charts, but that could > be my lack of knowledge. Can you please advise further? > > Thanks, > Craig > > > At 01:11 PM 1/4/2002 -0500, Denver Seifried wrote: > >Rod, > >Check with former Stan Kenton arranger, Bob Curnow, and his publishing > >company Sierra Music. Just put Sierra Music into a search engine or try Bob > >Curnow's name. We play quite a few of the Rob's charts in the Dayton Jazz > >Orchestra. I hope your band has about two heavy hitter lead trumpet players, > >as the lead trumpet parts are just absolute killers, as they are very high > >and go on forever in the high range. All of his charts are masterpieces of > >big band arranging. > > > >Good luck with these charts! > >Denny Seifried > >Bass Trombone-Dayton Jazz Orchestra & Springfield(OH) Symphony > >Adjunct trombone-Wittenberg Univ. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:14:23 -0800 From: Todd Jonz To: Trombone-L mailing list Subject: Interpreting the national anthem Message-ID: <20020104141423.A13762@tj.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard Johnson writes: > I hate to see the National Anthem massacred also. However, > I don't think that the performers should be stifled in their > artistic interpretations. The USA is such a diverse country > and as such, I see no reason why the SSB cannot be sung with > tinges of gospel, blues, Irish, Scottish, Italian or > Vietnamese influences. Bravo, Richard. I've been waiting for someone to make this point ever since Jose Feliciano's rendition of the national anthem was added to the list of notorious butcherings. Sure, if you simply can't abide pop music on general principle, then Feliciano's interpretation certainly isn't going to be your cup of tea. But from where I sit, it was a vibrant, heartfelt interpretation that probably connected with the hispanic audience in ways that the official Marine band arrangement never could. In fact, I even accept Jimi Hendrix' acid rock interpretation of the anthem at Woodstock. Consider it an artifact of its time, when many of us were saying, "Hell, no, we won't go!" and being labeled commie pinkos by those on the other side of the debate. Hendrix managed to encapsulate a popular sentiment while still maintaining a sense of nationalistic pride that represented the feelings of the vast majority of an entire generation of Americans. I've always felt that Hedrix was saying, "I love my country, but I cannot accept what its current leadership is doing to it," and a half a million people in the audience agreed enthusiasticly. Quite frankly, the freedom to make that statement is what the song and this country are all about, and I've alway considered that performance to have been highly patriotic as a result. I think there's a big difference between these interpretations and, say, Rosanne Barr's infamous smart ass rendition, which clearly showed no respect for the song or its significance, and was obviously intended only to get a laugh. That's simple disrespect. (And while I'll defend her right to her interpretation, I'll also call attention to my right to point out what a flaming &ssh*le it made her look like.) Wasn't it just last month that we engaged in a long discussion about taking risks in the "legit vs. studio players" thread? Don't the same principles apply here? Wouldn't we'd be a lot worse off if everyone decided that the Marine band rendition were the only "valid" interpretation? -- Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:29:05 -0800 From: Todd Jonz To: Trombone-L mailing list Subject: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: <20020104142905.C13762@tj.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just received these from a trumpet player with whom I play in a brass quintet. Anybody have any trumpet player jokes I can send back to him in retaliation? ;-) Q. What's the difference between a bass trombone and a chain saw? A. Vibrato, though you can minimize this difference by holding the chain saw very still. Q. What is the dynamic range of the bass trombone? A. On or off. Q. How can you make a french horn sound like a trombone? A. Take your hand out of the bell and miss all of the notes. Q. How do you know when a trombone player is at your door? A. The doorbell drags. Q. What is a gentleman? A. Somebody who knows how to play the trombone, but doesn't. Q. What do you call a trombonist with a beeper and a cellular telephone? A. An optimist. Q. What is the diffference between a dead trombone player lying in the road, and a dead squirrel lying in the road? A. The squirrel might have been on his way to a gig. Q. How many trombonists does it take to change a lightbulb? A. Just one, but he'll do it too loudly. Q. How do you improve the aerodynamics of a trombonist's car? A. Take the Domino's Pizza sign off the roof. Q. What kind of calendar does a trombonist use for his gigs? A. "Year-At-A-Glance." Q. How can you tell which kid on a playground is the child of a trombonist? A. He doesn't know how to use the slide, and he can't swing. -- Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:27:16 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Todd, No retaliation is needed. These are old jokes. They were stupid then and theyâre still stupid today. DanP I just received these from a trumpet player with whom I play in a brass quintet. Anybody have any trumpet player jokes I can send back to him in retaliation? ;-) Q. What's the difference between a bass trombone and a chain saw? A. Vibrato, though you can minimize this difference by holding the chain saw very still. Q. What is the dynamic range of the bass trombone? A. On or off. Q. How can you make a french horn sound like a trombone? A. Take your hand out of the bell and miss all of the notes. Q. How do you know when a trombone player is at your door? A. The doorbell drags. Q. What is a gentleman? A. Somebody who knows how to play the trombone, but doesn't. Q. What do you call a trombonist with a beeper and a cellular telephone? A. An optimist. Q. What is the diffference between a dead trombone player lying in the road, and a dead squirrel lying in the road? A. The squirrel might have been on his way to a gig. Q. How many trombonists does it take to change a lightbulb? A. Just one, but he'll do it too loudly. Q. How do you improve the aerodynamics of a trombonist's car? A. Take the Domino's Pizza sign off the roof. Q. What kind of calendar does a trombonist use for his gigs? A. "Year-At-A-Glance." Q. How can you tell which kid on a playground is the child of a trombonist? A. He doesn't know how to use the slide, and he can't swing. -- Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:57:13 -0600 From: "Jeffrey Albert" To: , "'Trombones and related issues forum.'" Subject: RE: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: <003b01c1957b$88556b60$94229d42@user> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Actually, the doorbell dragging joke was new to me, and pretty funny I thought. Odd how a joke can remind you of things to practice... Jeff Albert www.jeffalbert.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu [mailto:owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Pliskin Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:27 PM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes Todd, No retaliation is needed. These are old jokes. They were stupid then and theyÕre still stupid today. DanP >I just received these from a trumpet player with whom I play in a >brass quintet. Anybody have any trumpet player jokes I can send >back to him in retaliation? ;-) > > > Q. What's the difference between a bass trombone and a > chain saw? > A. Vibrato, though you can minimize this difference by > holding the chain saw very still. > > Q. What is the dynamic range of the bass trombone? > A. On or off. > > Q. How can you make a french horn sound like a trombone? > A. Take your hand out of the bell and miss all of the notes. > > Q. How do you know when a trombone player is at your door? > A. The doorbell drags. > > Q. What is a gentleman? > A. Somebody who knows how to play the trombone, but doesn't. > > Q. What do you call a trombonist with a beeper and a > cellular telephone? > A. An optimist. > > Q. What is the diffference between a dead trombone player > lying in the road, and a dead squirrel lying in the road? > A. The squirrel might have been on his way to a gig. > > Q. How many trombonists does it take to change a lightbulb? > A. Just one, but he'll do it too loudly. > > Q. How do you improve the aerodynamics of a trombonist's car? > A. Take the Domino's Pizza sign off the roof. > > Q. What kind of calendar does a trombonist use for his gigs? > A. "Year-At-A-Glance." > > Q. How can you tell which kid on a playground is the child of > a trombonist? > A. He doesn't know how to use the slide, and he can't swing. > > >-- >Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, >todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:15:17 -0800 From: Todd Jonz To: Trombone-L mailing list Subject: Puzzle time Message-ID: <20020104161517.D13762@tj.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A brass quartet with which I've been playing has been working on some wonderful Russion material that our horn player had in his music library. We believe these pieces to be transcriptions of 20th century string quartet music, but since the charts were published in Russia and the title text is in Cyrillic, none of us has any idea as to titles, composers, arrangers/transcribers, etc. This is probably a long shot, but I figured it was at least worth a try. Below is the pertinent information I would like to translate, represented as best I can using the ISO Latin character set. For example, my part reads "TPOMboH" in the upper left corner, which undoubtedly means "trombone." I have substituted an underscore when no Latin character looks even vaguely similar to the original. Title: PbIHOK Subtitle: TaHeu N3 ba_eTa "C_apTaK" Composer: A. XAYATYPRH Arranger: ObpaboTKa T. _oK_N_epa Title: TPETnR YACTb N3 CTPYHHO_O KBAPTETA No. 3 Subtitle: _ecHR Composer: A. ArEKCAH_POB Arranger: repe_oxeHNe _. OpaN_a Title: CbIPbA Subtitle: MorraBCKNN TaHeu Composer: A. XAYATYPRH Arranger: ObpaboTKa T. _oK_N_epa Although there appear to be two different composers, these three pieces were published as a unit, and are numbered "1", "2", and "3" in the order they are listed above, as though they were movements of a single composition. Any Russian speakers out there with a fondness for puzzles who might be able to clue us in? This is really splendid material with a vibrant Russian flavor, and it deserves a better moniker than "the vodka music", which is how we have been referring to it thus far.... -- Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:28:10 -0500 From: "Aaron Roth" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: RE: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I thought these three were pretty funny, especially the first. Someone had mentioned to me one time that trombone players always seem to be playing either very loudly or very softly or not at all. Very little of the mezzo-dynamics this person heard. I also chuckled at the idea of the physical restraint it would take to keep me away from a trombone, hence the applicability of the gentleman trombonist. ;-) -Aaron > Q. What is the dynamic range of the bass trombone? > A. On or off. > Q. How do you know when a trombone player is at your door? > A. The doorbell drags. > > Q. What is a gentleman? > A. Somebody who knows how to play the trombone, but doesn't. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:40:19 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Interpreting the national anthem Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020104193037.01efa758@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:14 PM 1/4/2002 -0800, Todd Jonz wrote: Richard Johnson writes: > I hate to see the National Anthem massacred also. However, > I don't think that the performers should be stifled in their > artistic interpretations. The USA is such a diverse country > and as such, I see no reason why the SSB cannot be sung with > tinges of gospel, blues, Irish, Scottish, Italian or > Vietnamese influences. Bravo, Richard. I've been waiting for someone to make this point ever since Jose Feliciano's rendition of the national anthem was added to the list of notorious butcherings. Sure, if you simply can't abide pop music on general principle, then Feliciano's interpretation certainly isn't going to be your cup of tea. But from where I sit, it was a vibrant, heartfelt interpretation that probably connected with the hispanic audience in ways that the official Marine band arrangement never could. I guess it is important to separate the cases of adventurous interpretation from those of just plain poor musicianship. There are a lot of singers out there who are not very good musicians. They are promoted because the look sexy, dance well, are good actors or have family connections. There seem to be some cases where a person has no apparent qualifications, but somehow the system gets behind them. I heard Charlotte Church singing pop music a few weeks ago and her intonation was really second rate, especially considering all the hype that attends her. But having said that, I've heard all sorts of wonderful performances of the SSB that include unexpected twists and turns. There is a line where the wonderfully adventurous becomes sickeningly disrespectful. A great artist can get pretty close to that line and survive. Feliciano was standing right on the line I think. My 2 cents. Craig ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:29:25 -0800 From: "Richard Bartkus" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Interpreting the national anthem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Of course it was only intended to get a laugh. Just an opinion here, but did anyone expect Roseanne to give a musical performance of the national anthem ? She's a comedian known for being on the edge of acceptable behavior. My disgust lies with the person who thought that this was a good idea. But who knows, a moving and tasteful musical performance may not have been important to the person responsible for booking her. Just my opinion Richard Bartkus I think there's a big difference between these interpretations and, say, Rosanne Barr's infamous smart ass rendition, which clearly showed no respect for the song or its significance, and was obviously intended only to get a laugh. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:28:57 EST From: ALFORDMB@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: SS Banner/Goldman Band Message-ID: <9e.201620a2.2967b0d9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/03/2002 3:30:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, jscot@ucalgary.ca writes: > As far as the Goldman Band goes, I subbed there quite a few times during the > 80's > and 90's - it may still be going on, although it is a shadow of it's former > glory. > They also have gone through a name change or two, because of sponsorship. the Goldman Band is still active in NYC as the "Goldman Memorial Band." They have just completed their 84th year of free concerts and have a new conductor, Dr. Christian Wilhjem, who seems to be breathing new life into the organization. Recordings of the Goldman Band under its founder, Edwin Franco Goldman, led me into a life long love of band music, beginning in the early 1950s, so when I heard them in person for the first time in June 2001 you can imagine what a thrill it was for me. I still have those scratchy old 33s and recently taped them to prevent further wear on the records. Best wishes, Mike Alford ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:41:04 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Goldman Band Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Ahh, the Goldman Band. I played in the Band for three summers - 1977, 78 and 79. I have wonderful memories of the group, playing with trombone players like Charlie Baker, Vernon Post, Alan Kaplan, Fred Braverman, euph players Jerry Kuhl (formerly of the Montreal Symphony) and Abe Pearlstein (who played trombone in the NBC Symphony). I was there at the end of Richard Franko Goldman's tenure - when he died, Ainslee Cox took over. There was nothing like playing 6 concerts a week in the summer for 6 weeks. Great for my chops, and great to play in bandshells for appreciative audiences attending free concerts. Most memorable was the concert at the Guggenheim Bandshell in Lincoln Center the night of the New York City blackout in 1978 (I think) - we were playing "Orpheus in the Underworld" when the lights went out. No kidding! Everything got quiet for a few minutes and we began to realize there were no lights - anywhere. Someone got off the band stand and saw lights in New Jersey and we knew we were in trouble. A minute later, someone started playing "When the Saints Go Marching In" and in a few seconds, the whole band was playing. We were then dismissed and somehow I found my wife in the audience in the dark - we made it over to the east side to take a bus uptown to our apartment (subways obviously weren't running). My wife had gone shopping that afternoon so the freezer was full of ice cream so we ate a half gallon each since it would have melted overnight. An unforgettable night... One can only imagine the numbers of people who were introduced to music with the Goldman Band. Very fond memories for me and countless others. Any other Goldman Band alums on the list? -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:59:02 -0500 From: "Steve Beck" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: <004101c1958c$8ea7b480$f8320923@cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Jeffrey Albert" > Actually, the doorbell dragging joke was new to me, and pretty funny I > thought. Jeff, that's because this is a drummer joke - not a trombone joke. Most of the music jokes can be said about other instruments but some just make more sense for a given instrument. The joke in question is so obviously a drummer joke. Had it been a bone head at the door the knocking would have rushed. And as far as trumpet jokes go, there aren't any - everything said about them is the truth - for instance: A trumpet player was in the sack with his girlfriend. Not using any protection she said to him, "Hey, you had better pull out." "Why, am I sharp?" replied the trumpeter ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:18:53 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: bassrange@hotmail.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: <32.203f3af9.2967bc8d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On one of the Jeeves vhs for PBS written by PGWodehouse there is an episode of Jeeves in the Country where his employer has taken up the trombone. They were forced to leave his London digs and move to a cottage in the country where practice upset the entire neighborhood. Jeeves has left his employer and a new Valet has been taken on, due to Jeeves aversion to trombone playing. In any event the general tenor (ha) of the piece is that Gentlemen do Not Play Trombone. Jeez Jeeves. beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:19:55 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: craig@acticalc.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Interpreting the national anthem Message-ID: <96.1fed5dab.2967bccb@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Possibly the best point you can have for being a pop singer is to have a beautiful belly button. beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:32:48 -0700 (MST) From: Dan Kuester To: Subject: Re: Puzzle time Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You could try pasting that onto an online translator, such as babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.com), and translating from Russian to English. It's a longshot, but it might work. On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Todd Jonz wrote: > > A brass quartet with which I've been playing has been working on > some wonderful Russion material that our horn player had in his > music library. We believe these pieces to be transcriptions of 20th > century string quartet music, but since the charts were published in > Russia and the title text is in Cyrillic, none of us has any idea as > to titles, composers, arrangers/transcribers, etc. > > This is probably a long shot, but I figured it was at least worth a > try. Below is the pertinent information I would like to translate, > represented as best I can using the ISO Latin character set. For > example, my part reads "TPOMboH" in the upper left corner, which > undoubtedly means "trombone." I have substituted an underscore > when no Latin character looks even vaguely similar to the original. > > Title: PbIHOK > Subtitle: TaHeu N3 ba_eTa "C_apTaK" > Composer: A. XAYATYPRH > Arranger: ObpaboTKa T. _oK_N_epa > > Title: TPETnR YACTb N3 CTPYHHO_O KBAPTETA No. 3 > Subtitle: _ecHR > Composer: A. ArEKCAH_POB > Arranger: repe_oxeHNe _. OpaN_a > > Title: CbIPbA > Subtitle: MorraBCKNN TaHeu > Composer: A. XAYATYPRH > Arranger: ObpaboTKa T. _oK_N_epa > > Although there appear to be two different composers, these three > pieces were published as a unit, and are numbered "1", "2", and "3" > in the order they are listed above, as though they were movements > of a single composition. > > Any Russian speakers out there with a fondness for puzzles who might > be able to clue us in? This is really splendid material with a vibrant > Russian flavor, and it deserves a better moniker than "the vodka music", > which is how we have been referring to it thus far.... > > > -- > Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, > todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > --- Dan Kuester http://lurgyman.bolognia.net ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:07:14 -0600 From: "Richard Johnson" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Interpreting the national anthem Message-ID: <002e01c195bf$fc8a51a0$3faf9d42@zemry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This article appeared in ESPN online today. I heard the rendition of the SSB by Boston at the Fiesta Bowl and thought it was pretty good, considering the rock context of the song.....kinda reminded me of the Hendrix version. Did anyone else hear it? More than a feeling by Tim Keown Now that the BCS has proven its worth, pitting the No. 1 team in the land against the 10th or 12th best and calling it a championship game, it's time to focus on a question of national importance: Has there ever been a more hideous rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner than the one performed at the Fiesta Bowl by the formerly popular rock group Boston? It was an instrumental, and it was so bad you couldn't tell the tune apart from More than a Feeling or Don't Look Back. If you heard it, do you remember worse? (Aside from the obvious Roseanne/Carl Lewis abominations, which occupy their own wing in the Hall.) In this time of patriotic fervor, we are also expected to reserve special antipathy for those who have changed the words over the years -- Steven Tyler at a NASCAR event this year, Huey Lewis for his regrettable "Oh, say does that Joe Montana É" deal a few years ago, etc. But for sheer mangling in a time of healing and need, Boston's was the worst, in both polls and as judged by the computer. **************************************************************************** ** Richard Zemry Johnson, Jr. "The Untouchables" Jazz Ensemble Shreveport Metropolitan Concert Band ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, , "There won't come a time when you won't have to practice anymore." J. J. Johnson **************************************************************************** ***** I'm not satisfied with anything about my playing. I know what I want. I can hear it; but it will take time and study to get it" -Sonny Rollins (1956) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 09:41:03 +0000 From: silversonic@att.net To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu (Trombone List) Subject: RE: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: <20020105094103.OPML941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hi folks, I too had seen all of these before, but they reminded me of the old adage... "from the mouths of babes". About 5 years ago, a 16 year old private student SHOCKED me with a trombonist joke I had yet to have heard. Given this list's incessant fascination with Guiness Stout, it seems appropriate to share. Q. How many trombonists DOES it take to change a lightbulb? A. Five. One to hold it in the socket, and four to drink until the room spins!!! Wishing a Happy New Year to you and yours!!! Tom Sousa Rochester, NY -- Artist Representative Greenhoe Musical Instrument Components > Actually, the doorbell dragging joke was new to me, and pretty funny I > thought. Odd how a joke can remind you of things to practice... > > Jeff Albert > > www.jeffalbert.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu > [mailto:owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Pliskin > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:27 PM > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes > > > Todd, > > No retaliation is needed. These are old jokes. They were stupid then > and > they’re still stupid today. > > DanP > > > > >I just received these from a trumpet player with whom I play in a > >brass quintet. Anybody have any trumpet player jokes I can send > >back to him in retaliation? ;-) > > > > > > Q. What's the difference between a bass trombone and a > > chain saw? > > A. Vibrato, though you can minimize this difference by > > holding the chain saw very still. > > > > Q. What is the dynamic range of the bass trombone? > > A. On or off. > > > > Q. How can you make a french horn sound like a trombone? > > A. Take your hand out of the bell and miss all of the notes. > > > > Q. How do you know when a trombone player is at your door? > > A. The doorbell drags. > > > > Q. What is a gentleman? > > A. Somebody who knows how to play the trombone, but doesn't. > > > > Q. What do you call a trombonist with a beeper and a > > cellular telephone? > > A. An optimist. > > > > Q. What is the diffference between a dead trombone player > > lying in the road, and a dead squirrel lying in the road? > > A. The squirrel might have been on his way to a gig. > > > > Q. How many trombonists does it take to change a lightbulb? > > A. Just one, but he'll do it too loudly. > > > > Q. How do you improve the aerodynamics of a trombonist's car? > > A. Take the Domino's Pizza sign off the roof. > > > > Q. What kind of calendar does a trombonist use for his gigs? > > A. "Year-At-A-Glance." > > > > Q. How can you tell which kid on a playground is the child of > > a trombonist? > > A. He doesn't know how to use the slide, and he can't swing. > > > > > >-- > >Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, > >todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:39:06 -0500 From: "Paul Kemp Jr" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: My newest project Message-ID: <000701c195f6$bf3fafc0$a85b4d0c@BIGSHARK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear List Members, I have finally written a book. It is entitled Embouchure Studies for Tenor Trombone. I have several copies of it here, and I think that I have done a pretty good job. It is based somewhat on the Phil Teele book, but I go into more detail as far as embouchure mechanics. The copyright is pending, but I believe that this would be a great book for both beginning tenor trombonists and young, beginning bass trombonists as well. The cost of the book, including shipping, is $18. Please feel free to give me feedback, and I'll be advertising the book on my website shortly. This book, I feel, can do wonders in helping all students without the benefit of a teacher (even though I highly recommend a private teacher) get their embouchure set up right. I can accept PayPal, so therefore if you want to put this on a credit card, I can handle that. Warm Regards, ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:19:19 -0800 From: "Joe L. Norcross" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: <004801c19604$bd5849c0$0bddaec7@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is a tuba joke Joe L. Norcross Tuba: Visalia CA Sequoia Winds Bass Trombone: Clovis CA Community Band Tuba and Announcer: Kingsburg CA City Band joetuba@lightspeed.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 1:41 AM Subject: RE: Trombonist jokes > Hi folks, > > I too had seen all of these before, but they reminded me > of the old adage... "from the mouths of babes". About 5 > years ago, a 16 year old private student SHOCKED me with > a trombonist joke I had yet to have heard. Given this > list's incessant fascination with Guiness Stout, it > seems appropriate to share. > > Q. How many trombonists DOES it take to change a > lightbulb? > > A. Five. One to hold it in the socket, and four to > drink until the room spins!!! > > Wishing a Happy New Year to you and yours!!! > > Tom Sousa > Rochester, NY > -- > Artist Representative > Greenhoe Musical Instrument Components > > Actually, the doorbell dragging joke was new to me, and pretty funny I > > thought. Odd how a joke can remind you of things to practice... > > > > Jeff Albert > > > > www.jeffalbert.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu > > [mailto:owner-trombone-l@po.missouri.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Pliskin > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:27 PM > > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > > Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes > > > > > > Todd, > > > > No retaliation is needed. These are old jokes. They were stupid then > > and > > they're still stupid today. > > > > DanP > > > > > > > > >I just received these from a trumpet player with whom I play in a > > >brass quintet. Anybody have any trumpet player jokes I can send > > >back to him in retaliation? ;-) > > > > > > > > > Q. What's the difference between a bass trombone and a > > > chain saw? > > > A. Vibrato, though you can minimize this difference by > > > holding the chain saw very still. > > > > > > Q. What is the dynamic range of the bass trombone? > > > A. On or off. > > > > > > Q. How can you make a french horn sound like a trombone? > > > A. Take your hand out of the bell and miss all of the notes. > > > > > > Q. How do you know when a trombone player is at your door? > > > A. The doorbell drags. > > > > > > Q. What is a gentleman? > > > A. Somebody who knows how to play the trombone, but doesn't. > > > > > > Q. What do you call a trombonist with a beeper and a > > > cellular telephone? > > > A. An optimist. > > > > > > Q. What is the diffference between a dead trombone player > > > lying in the road, and a dead squirrel lying in the road? > > > A. The squirrel might have been on his way to a gig. > > > > > > Q. How many trombonists does it take to change a lightbulb? > > > A. Just one, but he'll do it too loudly. > > > > > > Q. How do you improve the aerodynamics of a trombonist's car? > > > A. Take the Domino's Pizza sign off the roof. > > > > > > Q. What kind of calendar does a trombonist use for his gigs? > > > A. "Year-At-A-Glance." > > > > > > Q. How can you tell which kid on a playground is the child of > > > a trombonist? > > > A. He doesn't know how to use the slide, and he can't swing. > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, > > >todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:10:12 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Boston Pops scene Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" A number of people have emailed me offline asking for clarification of "What is the Boston Pops?" For those who might be interested, here's a brief rundown of a complex situation. The Boston Symphony was founded in 1881 and, like most American orchestras of the time, the majority of its players were from Europe. The season was a few months long and after it was over, players would return home to Europe - many would not return the next year. In an effort to keep players in Boston, the BSO decided to add "Promenade" concerts in 1885 modeled after the successful London Promenada concerts. This had the effect of lengthening the season and also it helped keep players here in Boston who might have otherwise left to find more work elsewhere in the off season. Players got separate contracts for the BSO and what became known as the Boston Pops. All BSO players, however were required to play in the Pops. In the 1960's, the Pops season had grown to about 10 weeks which included concerts in Symphony Hall as well as free concerts on Boston's Charles River Esplanade. Because the BSO had the Pops season, it became the first American orchestra to give full 52 week employment to its players. Also in the 1960's, principal players of the BSO left the Pops (by contract negotiation) and formed the Boston Symphony Chamber Players. As a result, assistant principal (or 2nd) players in the BSO moved up to play principal in Pops. Players no loner got separate contracts for the Symphony and Pops season - it all became part of the "BSO Inc." Arthur Fiedler was the Pops conductor for 50 years. When not conducting the Pops during the regular Pops season, Fiedler would often put together a free lance orchestra of players and tour with them under the name of, "Boston Pops Tour Orchestra." This was allowed by the BSO but was not an official BSO sponsored activity. Sometimes Fiedler would hire a whole intact orchestra to tour with him, as happened with the Baltimore Symphony many years ago. In the 1970's, the BSO management got wise to this and decided to make Fiedler's freelance orchestra activities part of the BSO's official activities - after all if you can run two orchestras at the same time, it' slike the goose that laid the golden egg. A new orchestra was "formed" called the "Boston Pops Esplanade Orchestra." The BSO activities were getting quite active and the BSO needed more weeks of the season for symphonic concerts. The concerts on the Esplanade were given over to the BPEO which was entirely an orchestra of local Boston free lance players engaged for a particular concert - this was so the BSO players could all be at Tanglewood, the BSO summer home. The official pops season shrunk down to 6 weeks (which is what it is today) in order to accommodate added weeks of vacation and more BSO concerts for the regular BSO players. The Boston Pops Esplanade Orchestra is the name given to any "Boston Pops" orchestra which does not have 60% of its players on stage drawn from membership of the Boston Symphony. In some cases, 100% of the BPEO is made up of non-BSO players, such as the Esplanade concerts (including July 4 and most touring). However, there are occasions when BSO players are offered extra, optional employment for pops jobs and they can play in the BPEO (such as many of our Christmas pops concerts in Symphony Hall which are scheduled during our vacation - BSO players can choose to work during their vacation if they want, but are not required to do so). The BSO Pops, the "Boston Pops Orchestra" does all of the recordings you hear as well as the PBS "Evening at Pops" TV series. However BSO players are no longer required to play in the Pops at all - it is optional - if you play, you get paid, if you don't play, you don't get paid and we hire a local sub for your chair. That's the nutshell - really three different kinds of groups playing under the name "Boston Pops": Boston Pops Orchestra (made up of BSO players) Boston Pops Esplanade Orchestra (made up of BSO and non-BSO players) Boston Pops Esplanade Orchestra (made up of non-BSO players) Confused? You should be. It's a situation which the players have tried to clarify for many years, even to the point of the BSO players hiring a lawyer to work out the details of marketing so it is always clear to the public who is playing. The words "Boston Pops" do not represent an orchestra - it is a "concept." In marketing, you should never see the words "Boston Pops" standing alone. It SHOULD read, "Keith Lockhart and the Boston Pops, with the Boston Pops Orchestra." But marketers being what they are, this often doesn't happen. Witness the Superbowl website which has a long piece on the "Boston Pops" playing at the game: http://www.superbowl.com/xxxvi/features/pregame_bostonpops.html It will be the "Boston Pops Orchestra" there, mostly BSO players. By the way, the Boston Pops Orchestra trombone section consists of Norman Bolter, principal (he plays 2nd trombone in the BSO) and me on bass. BSO Principal Ron Barron hasn't played in Pops for many years since he is in the Boston Symphony Chamber Players (although at the Super Bowl you'll see Ron Barron playing 2nd trombone in the orchestra - that's because the Super Bowl gig is optional and after all regular BSO/Pops players have been offered employment, vacant chairs are offered to BSO principals - so you have the situation when you can see a BSO principal playing in the section in the Pops!). We have had a number of fine 2nd trombone players play in the BPO since I've been in the orchestra including John Huling (now with the National Symphony), Lawrence Isaacson, Doug Wright (now principal with the Minnesota Orchestra), Jim Nova (now 2nd with Utah Symphony) and Darren Acosta (who currently usually plays with the BPO). The current section for the BPEO these days (which changes from time to time as the players are hired not as a full orchestra, but as individuals for a particular engagement) is Darren Acosta, Hans Bohn and Mark Cantrell (bass) or James Nova, Darren Acosta and Mark Cantrell. So, now you know the "rest of the story." By the way, for a list of all past Superbowl national anthem singers, and pregame and halftime groups, go to: http://www.superbowl.com/xxxvi/features/entertainment-honorroll.html -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:11:01 -0600 From: Listmonitor Trombone-L To: Trombone-L Subject: fw: re. New Years Eve Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Doug Elliott contacted me and asked if I would forward this information to the list: Beldon Wade wrote: Subject: New Years Eve On PBS TV New Years Eve a presentation was made a'la USO featuring a band (with Violins and other Strings) headed by a director playing trombone.There were three other bones in the band two tenors and one bass. All instruments appeared to be (tenors) either large bore horns or dual bore. The bass was a very large instrument. The tenor the band leader played was equipped with what looked like tuning in the slide and it was or at least appeared to be a large bore tenor also..Any how.... they played great swing stuff and it was really enjoyable.The Band was Earl F..... it wasn't on the band stand but I think I heard Fillmore as the last name .. The screen credits indicated that the stuff was done in NC or Virginia for the taping. Who was this great group?? What is their history? beldon wade The correct info: The show is called "The Big Band Sound of WWII", the leader is Eric Felten, and the trombone section is Doug Elliott on lead, Bill Holmes (Army Blues) on 2nd, and Dudley Hinote (Airmen of Note) on bass. Eric plays a Schmelzer model 2 (.508 bore), Doug plays a Schmelzer model 1 (.500 bore), Bill plays a Martin Urbie Green (.500 bore), and Dudley plays a Yamaha 613. Incidentally, all four use Doug Elliott mouthpieces (of course!) The show is a fundraiser for PBS and has been shown several times in the past few months. It was put together by Eric Felten with his big band and added strings, and most of the arrangements are by Indianapolis trombonist Brent Wallerab. Eric is a former ITA Rosolino scholarship winner, living in Washington DC. See www.ericfelten.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:42:59 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Interpreting the national anthem Message-ID: <000401c19610$6c020780$4d525d3f@garymaxwell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Richard Johnson" > This article appeared in ESPN online today. I heard the rendition of the > SSB by Boston at the Fiesta Bowl and thought it was pretty good, considering > the rock context of the song.....kinda reminded me of the Hendrix version. > Did anyone else hear it? =================================================================== Yes, as amatter of fact, I do remember hearing it. At the time, even I, the died in the wool traditionalist, had no particular problems with Boston's rendition. I do have to admit that I did not hear every note, as I was doing other things around the house, at the time, which brings up another (no trombone content) issue. I was taught, as with the "Lord's Prayer", that any time the SSB is heard, one should take pause, stand, place hand over heart, (take hat off first), and SING. I always do so when in attendance at a concert or sporting event, but I seem to be counting myself as part of an ever growing minority. Thoughts? Since this is off topic, maybe they should come to me off-list. All the best, Gary Maxwell Bass Trombone Bakersfield Symphony Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:47:54 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Happy Birthday, Gary Maxwell! Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Happy Birthday, Gary! Chris -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage, Associate Webmaster chris@trombone.org http://www.trombone.org - A web site for trombonists ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:50:08 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Trombonist jokes Message-ID: <000901c19611$6b1a9840$4d525d3f@garymaxwell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: > I too had seen all of these before, but they reminded me > of the old adage... "from the mouths of babes". About 5 > years ago, a 16 year old private student SHOCKED me with > a trombonist joke I had yet to have heard. Given this > list's incessant fascination with Guiness Stout, it > seems appropriate to share. > > Q. How many trombonists DOES it take to change a > lightbulb? > > A. Five. One to hold it in the socket, and four to > drink until the room spins!!! ================================================================== Having been, at one time ,an avid rehearsal break-parking lot-imbiber, I'll accept this as a trombone joke, BUT I've always heard it as a TUBA joke. (:>)) Gary Maxwell ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2260--