TROMBONE-L Digest 2259 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Off-topic, but amusing by Stephen Troy 2) Re: Duets by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 3) RE: Duets by "Guion, David" <8guion@jmls.edu> 4) Re: SS Banner by "Gary D. Maxwell" 5) Re: SS Banner by "Gary D. Maxwell" 6) Re: SS Banner by Gabriel Langfur 7) New Years Eve by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 8) Re: SS Banner by James Scott 9) Re: New Years Eve by "Hector Bourg Jr." 10) Senior Female Trombonist? by David Fetter 11) Re: In Sports, Over-Analysis Leads to Paralysis.....Perhaps music also? by "Daniel Pliskin" 12) Willson Euphonium wanted by Douglas Yeo 13) Re: Senior Female Trombonist? by Craig Parmerlee 14) Re: SS Banner by "Richard Johnson" 15) Re: Duets by Larry White 16) Over-Analysis Leads to Paralysis by Bear Woodson 17) Re: Senior Female Trombonist? by "Adrian Drover" 18) Re: SS Banner by David Buckley 19) McConnell charts by "Rod Ellard" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:59:26 -0500 From: Stephen Troy To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Off-topic, but amusing Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020103125926.008e9100@pop.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought this was amusing. http://www.comics.com/comics/chickweed/archive/chickweed-20020101.html Trombone content? I think the entire musical example can be played by a trombone choir in 6th position (allowing for a low trigger "C"). Steve Troy ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:15:27 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: becks@pilot.msu.edu, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Duets Message-ID: <173.1af7941.2965f9bf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just above H.. (Hamilton) beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:03:49 -0600 From: "Guion, David" <8guion@jmls.edu> To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Duets Message-ID: <47763CCCA27C4F4FA4BEF7DDB754A1E7124984@marshall.jmls.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > From: Larry White > If you can read treble clef, drop down to Toronto > > ???? Is that below middle C ? > Being from Ohio, I always figured the middle C was Columbus. (It's between Cleveland and Cincinnati.) In that sense, I don't want to be anywhere just now from whence it is possible to go down to Toronto! ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ David Guion, Cataloging Librarian The John Marshall Law School 315 S. Plymouth Ct. Chicago, IL 60604 Voice: (312) 427-2737 x 552 Fax; (312) 427-8307 8guion@jmls.edu Should part-time band directors be called semi-conductors? Quidquid latine dictum sit, profundum viditur. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:16:54 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: "smith.howard" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: SS Banner Message-ID: <001501c1948b$37fa4c80$30525d3f@garymaxwell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "smith.howard" > > do you > have a version of the SS Banner by a "real" composer? ================================================================ Have you ever heard of "Pandora's Box", or "can-o-worms"? Wow! (:>)) Seriously, I know what you are asking, actually, yes we have a really good (IMO) arrangement by our own John Philip Sousa, (among others). I really do not know why it isn't used more. =============================================== > > No offence intended. I love the tune, but have heard it massacred many > times. ================================================ None taken by me, but I'm sure you will hear from others. (:>)) All the best, Gary Maxwell Bass Trombone Bakersfield Symphony Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:23:10 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: SS Banner Message-ID: <003901c1948c$15aee400$30525d3f@garymaxwell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >So why doesn't Germany use "Yankee Doodle"? =========================================================== They do, but it just doesn't come off well as a Laendler (sp). Gary Maxwell ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:03:20 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: SS Banner Message-ID: <20020103200320.89056.qmail@web10304.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Craig Parmerlee wrote: > At 10:24 AM 01/03/2002 -0500, Walter Barrett wrote: > >As for me, give me the Carmen Dragon arrangement of > "America the Beautiful" > >any day! > > That is a great arrangement. I concur... > > Do you see that the Captain and Tenille are making a mini > comeback? They > are in an ad for one of the wireless phone companies. That's the funniest commercial on TV right now...I did several shows of Miss Saigon in November, and the conductor was a woman whose name I can't remember. Anyway, she is good friends with Toni Tenille, and they just recorded an album of jazz standards together. According to her, Ms. Tenille really wants to be out performing again, but the Captain is happily retired. Trombone content: the music in Miss Saigon is almost completely unmemorable, but the bass/tenor trombone doubling book in the reduced orchestration is REALLY fun to play. Gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:03:34 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: New Years Eve Message-ID: <49.16424b66.29661316@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On PBS TV New Years Eve a presentation was made a'la USO featuring a band ( with Violins and other Strings) headed by a director playing trombone. There were three other bones in the band two tenors and one bass. All instruments appeared to be (tenors) either large bore horns or dual bore. The bass was a very large instrument. The tenor the band leader played was equipped with what looked like tuning in the slide and it was or at least appeared to be a large bore tenor also.. Any how.... they played great swing stuff and it was really enjoyable. The Band was Earl F..... it wasn't on the band stand but I think I heard Fillmore as the last name .. The screen credits indicated that the stuff was done in NC or Virginia for the taping. Who was this great group?? What is their history? beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:28:31 -0700 From: James Scott To: davebuckley@sympatico.ca Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: SS Banner Message-ID: <3C34BEEF.6FF515C4@ucalgary.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave - I also grew up on the Leidzen arrangement, as I got my start in the Salvation Army - in fact, my Dad, who is a retired SA officer, studied composition with Leidzen. I always enjoyed that arrangement, esp. the optional fanfare that precedes the tune. It's one of the few musical arrangements that comes to mind where trombone glisses are used for dramatic effect, and not for parody (this is in the "Fanfare" part before anyone starts trying to figure out where glisses would fit in SSB). As far as the Goldman Band goes, I subbed there quite a few times during the 80's and 90's - it may still be going on, although it is a shadow of it's former glory. They also have gone through a name change or two, because of sponsorship. When I was getting called, they were doing their concerts in several parks in all 5 of the NY Boroughs. As I said, I'm not up on what's happening now w/the band, since I live up here in the frozen white north (west AND north of Toronto!) and don't get back to NYC as often as I used to. Jim Scott David Buckley wrote: > There is also an excellent arrangement by Erik Leidzen with a fanfare prelude. > This was written I believe when Erik was arranger for the Goldman Band and is > available for both concert and brass bands. To refresh everyone's memory, the > Goldman Band did 6 concerts a week split between Central Park and Brooklyn, all > paid. What would we give for a gig like that now? > > Dave Buckley. > > Walter Barrett wrote: > > > on 1/3/02 8:24 AM, smith.howard at smith.howard@ntlworld.com sent forth into > > the cosmos: > > > > > In Britain, we have an arrangement of our anthem by Elgar. In France, they > > > have an arrangement by Berlioz. The tune of the German anthem (also now > > > known as the hymn tune "Austria") was penned by Haydn. In the States, do you > > > have a version of the SS Banner by a "real" composer? > > > > > > No offence intended. I love the tune, but have heard it massacred many > > > times. > > > > > > Howard > > > > Howard- > > > > No wonder that a Brit would love the tune of the Star Spangled Banner, as it > > was formerly a drinking song from England. (The Anacreon Society pops into > > my head...) > > > > There's a version of the SSB by Stravinsky, done soon after he became a > > citizen. By Igor's standards, fairly tame. > > > > My favorite version is from a recording by the American Brass Quintet and > > friends, of music from the Civil War era, done on period instruments. Sort > > of a minuet/slow waltz tempo. If not from the "Brass Band Journal," at least > > contemporary to it... > > > > Of course, some might argue that John Phillip Sousa, who did the version > > most often played by bands here in the States, was a real composer. > > > > As for me, give me the Carmen Dragon arrangement of "America the Beautiful" > > any day! > > > > Walter Barrett > > > > "Already too loud!" > > Bruno Walter at his first rehearsal with an American orchestra, on > > seeing the players reaching for their instruments. > > > > > > Yamaha Artist/Clinician > > Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones > > Euphonium > > Bass Trumpet > > Tuba ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:53:39 -0500 From: "Hector Bourg Jr." To: "Bone List" , Subject: Re: New Years Eve Message-ID: <035601c194ba$4060d400$a2523842@hn9nz49oeloz7b> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was the Tom Daugherty Band. Check out their website: http://www.tomdaughertyorchestra.com I saw that program back during the summer and wondered as you did about who it was. A bit of legwork produced the above answer. hb **************************************************************************** *** Hector "Butch" Bourg Jr. - Graphic and Web Design - Atlanta, GA Trombonist - Sentimental Journey Orchestra - http://www.thesjo.com ** NOW CELEBRATING TWENTY-SIX SWINGIN' YEARS ** **************************************************************************** *** ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: New Years Eve > On PBS TV New Years Eve a presentation was made a'la USO featuring a band ( > with Violins and other Strings) headed by a director playing trombone. > > There were three other bones in the band two tenors and one bass. All > instruments appeared to be (tenors) either large bore horns or dual bore. > The bass was a very large instrument. The tenor the band leader played was > equipped with what looked like tuning in the slide and it was or at least > appeared to be a large bore tenor also.. > > Any how.... they played great swing stuff and it was really enjoyable. > > The Band was Earl F..... it wasn't on the band stand but I think I heard > Fillmore as the last name .. The screen credits indicated that the stuff was > done in NC or Virginia for the taping. > > Who was this great group?? What is their history? > > > beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 20:58:07 -0500 (EST) From: David Fetter To: Trombone Forum Subject: Senior Female Trombonist? Message-ID: <1010109487.3c350c2f88b97@webmail.toad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re: Casting Call - Senior Female Trombonist? As career office director at Peabody, I get some odd requests, such as this... Are you a retired over-65 female professional trombonist who still plays? I've received a call from someone casting a movie. No kidding. If you are such a person, or if you know of someone, please reply to me off list. DF David Fetter Peabody Conservatory and Preparatory Trombone Faculties Associate Dean for Performance Activities and Placement 1 East Mt. Vernon Place Baltimore, MD 21202 David Fetter - Music for Brass (Mostly) Home page: www.peabody.jhu.edu/~davidf/ w. 410 659-8100, x. 1254 _________________________________________________________________________ This mail sent via toadmail.com, web e-mail @ ToadNet - want to go fast? http://www.toadmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 01:58:16 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: In Sports, Over-Analysis Leads to Paralysis.....Perhaps music also? Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sam, I printed out your ćRe: In Sports, Over-Analysis Leads to Paralysis.....Perhaps music also?ä post. I want to read it several times and I want my wife to read it. Months ago she happened to read a few trombone-L emails and was taken aback that we werenāt dufi (plural of dufuss?), talking about idiotic intricacies of trombone playing. Instead, we seem to talk about something closer to the Zen of playing trombone. Anyway, I guess I must have a fair amount of self-hate, because Iām about to pick on scientists, again. When you go over to your stereo and turn the volume up, you turn it to what sounds good, to you, considering other people in your house and your neighbors. A scientist would have to measure something and say that you like the volume set at 5.63177. Theyād then take that number and hundreds more and come up with the fact that trombone players in New York City, on average, prefer their stereo volumes set at 5.6423. This might be a correct fact, but itās basically useless. On the other hand, if you needed to publish some post-doctoral writing, youād tell the world about it. It still wouldnāt mean anything, but now it would be fact that the entire world could access and quote. So when the psychologists/physiologists/whatever claim that one can only remember verbal information with long-term memory, itās just that they canāt quantize anything else. I certainly canāt imagine that Iām playing classical guitar, from a verbal script thatās going through my brain. My classical guitar has no fingerboard markings. I see it more like a dance of intricate muscle memory. I actually have no idea where I am, but I can play with my eyes closed. So go easy on we scientists. We donāt know that weāre really just deluded tinkers. And until the technology sector actually hits bottom, theyāll continue to pay us exorbitant amounts of money for generating more useless crap, so that marketing folk can convince you that you DEFINITELY NEED IT in order to finally have great sex. DanP _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:38:52 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Willson Euphonium wanted Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I have had a query from a student wanting to buy a used Willson 2900 euphonium. If anyone knows of one for sale, please email me off list. Thanks very much. -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:57:56 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Senior Female Trombonist? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020103215614.01ec0588@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:58 PM 1/3/2002 -0500, David Fetter wrote: Re: Casting Call - Senior Female Trombonist? As career office director at Peabody, I get some odd requests, such as this... Are you a retired over-65 female professional trombonist who still plays? I've received a call from someone casting a movie. No kidding. If you are such a person, or if you know of someone, please reply to me off list. If I put on some lipstick and a mumu, I'm not bad. Keep me in mind. I'm not sure I'm willing to shave my legs though. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:00:05 -0600 From: "Richard Johnson" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: SS Banner Message-ID: <006201c194cb$e96707c0$b4a99d42@zemry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting points, Larry. I hate to see the National Anthem massacred also. However, I don't think that the performers should be stifled in their artistic interpretations. The USA is such a diverse country and as such, I see no reason why the SSB cannot be sung with tinges of gospel, blues, Irish, Scottish, Italian or Vietnamese influences. Those things don't make me upset! I do get somewhat irritated with a classless interpretation of the SSB.....Rosanne Barr comes to mind. I laughed until I cried when Carl Lewis sang it one time, it was hilarious! However the USA would not be the USA without people such as Rosanne Barr having the right to interpret the SSB, even if the interpretation seems to me to be tasteless. The many interpretations of the SSB reflect the diversity of our country. I would hate to see it reduced to a set tempo, dynamics, etc. On an unrelated note, I just finished listening to the Univerity Nebraska's band play Sing, Sing, Sing in the halftime of the Rose Bowl. The trombones and trumpets sound really GOOD! It appears, at half-time anyway, that the band is a lot more proficient than the football team....27-0 in favor of Miami, I think...at halftime! **************************************************************************** ** Richard Zemry Johnson, Jr. "The Untouchables" Jazz Ensemble Shreveport Metropolitan Concert Band ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, , "There won't come a time when you won't have to practice anymore." J. J. Johnson **************************************************************************** ***** I'm not satisfied with anything about my playing. I know what I want. I can hear it; but it will take time and study to get it" -Sonny Rollins (1956) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry White" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:26 AM Subject: Re: SS Banner > While we are on this subject, and it seems therehas been precious little > Trombone subject, but I guess we all want to show our patriotism, be that we > live either north or south of the 49th, I for one cannot stand someone who > massacres the National Anthems of our countries. > They are hymns and should be respected as such. I do not mean that they must > be sombre and lull you to death, but sung / played as it was meant to be > according to the music. > The tempo /tempi should be moved along to encourage congregation / audience > participation, which I must say the Americans are much more willing to do > than we in Canada. (Of course we are more can I say reserved? and hold back > our feelings.) Or is it that we are constantly losing our rights and we have > now got to the point that we say the heck with it and put up with what is > thrown at us by our leader. Yes I say leader, for that it all we hear from. > Why does everybody who is out at centre ice and is given a microphone, feel > they have to trill every syllable of every word, and at the same time change > key while they are doing it, especially if singing without accompaniment? > We used to have a great opera singer in Montreal, a fellow by the name of > Roger Doucet who sang the National Anthem before most hockey games, and he > sang it wonderfully, but he was an exception, rather than the rule. > I am sure that even if we gave some of these young players nowadays some > proper music written out as it should be played, that they would go and blow > it out on their own merry own way if given the chance for they don't see it > as a Tribute, but a Performance. > Sad, is all I can say! > Especially if it is a Trombone Choir. > > Good Night I must be getting cranky, listening too much to you Dave Buckley! > Happy New Year! > > Larry White > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:38:19 -0800 From: Larry White To: becks@pilot.msu.edu Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Duets Message-ID: <3C3523AB.B2C91052@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yu'all get wet if you go below c. I better edit before posting next time! There was a missing part, but for the likes of me I can't remember what it is now. Oh well, they say that's the second thing that goes, Memory, and the worst part about it all is you can't remember what the first thing that went is! Cheers. Larry Steve Beck wrote: > From: Larry White > If you can read treble clef, drop down to Toronto > > ???? Is that below middle C ? ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:22:55 -0700 From: Bear Woodson To: Trombone List Subject: Over-Analysis Leads to Paralysis Message-ID: <3C352E1F.2D39C908@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Trombone List. I couldn't agree more! But as a non-performer, who was never a trombonist, and who is a Terminal Theory Geek and Composer, I see it from that viewpoint. Many years ago, I'd have to attend concerts of 20th Century 12-Tone and/or Aleatoric Music. They'd start with large Charts and Diagrams, to explain to the audience for an hour, WHY the next 5-minute piece of noise was "Justified", and sometimes they could account for EVERY Pitch, Rest, Rhythm, Instrument, Dynamic, etc., . . . . except for the fact that the "music" was Painfully Boring! Well that was years ago, and 12-Tone and Aleatoric Music have been Officially Dead since the Mid-1990's! (Yes, there are a few stragglers, mostly Minimalists, who wouldn't even have a career at all, except for those styles, like John Adams. But he's due to fall on, and break, his Philip Glass any day now. Meanwhile many people, especially myself, will still be yawning at such music.) "Function" is that "acoustic and emotional 'pull' that makes one chord 'progress' to another". Without it, notes are just gibberish. Tonality works mainly on Chord Functions based on the Major Scale, but Bartok, Hinde- mith, etc., and even Modern Jazzers, have all proven that music can have Plenty of Valid Harmonic Functions based on ALL the other kinds of Church Modes, Ethnic Modes, Altered and Invented Modes, etc. The Number One Rule in the Chromatic Functional Modality System is: if it sounds good, then it DOES Function! In other words, like the wise man said: "It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that swing!" If it's Boring, it doesn't count! If it sounds good, it IS Functional, even if it does not fit the narrow definitions of "Functionality" in the mostly Major-Scale-Only Traditional Tonality. Chromatic Functional Modality uses any and all modes, and Jazzers have been doing it by ear, for decades! In C Major, a First Inversion Db Major Triad is NOT actually "Functional", but it Sounds Good, so they gave it a name: the Neapolitan Chord. The Name makes it Acceptable to Traditional Tonality Theory Geeks, which means: How many other Neat Sounds have Not Yet been given a Name, that only need to be Named to make them "Functional"? Common Sense says there is still a lot of Unlabeled Beauty to be discovered in Music! I think the best it yet to come! I've been asked by several scholars to write the First Text Book on the Chromatic Functional Modality System. It was the genius of teachings of Paul Hindemith, mostly developed by Pulitzer Prize Winner Howard Hanson, who taught it to his student, Mr. Ronald Lo Presti, who was my teacher 30 years ago. Arizona State University did a detailed search in the last year, and it turns out that *I* am the Last Surviving Student, who still knows it well. Many good similar systems are being evolved, but this one seems to be the best developed. Now, with all the other work that I have to do, I also have to squeeze in the time to write this Text Book. Oysch! Just in the last few days, I've written 2 movements, and part of the 3rd, of a new Trio for Flute, Oboe and Bb Clarinet. It's already over 7 minutes long, and (of course, knowing me), the 2nd Movement is a Fugue. In the coming year, we expect to have the Orchestral Premiere of my Horn Concerto, with the now Dr. Karen McGale Fiehler. (She finished her doctorate and got married, in the last few months.) THEN it can be per- formed in its Transcriptions for Tenor Trombone and Euphonium. I've written a lot for Strings and Brass, Flute and Bassoon, so now I need to get caught up on writing for Clarinet and Oboe. Ergo I'm writing this Trio, and a Sonata with Piano, and a Quintet with Strings, for the Clarinet. I'm juggling several projects at once, so I ask you guys again: PLEASE, someone E-Mail me my long overdue Lobotomy! I could really use it right now! Bear Woodson Composer, Tucson, Arizona, USA ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:56:26 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Senior Female Trombonist? Message-ID: <006b01c19508$8adada00$4d7a68d5@homedmpbgvaomg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Craig Parmerlee" > At 08:58 PM 1/3/2002 -0500, David Fetter wrote: > > >Re: Casting Call - Senior Female Trombonist? > If I put on some lipstick and a mumu, I'm not bad. Keep me in mind. I'm > not sure I'm willing to shave my legs though. I'll do it, but I'm not shaving my moustache. Adrian ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:16:29 -0500 From: David Buckley To: zemry@bellsouth.net Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: SS Banner Message-ID: <3C35C74D.3239587@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You have made an excellent point. Most of us who do not live in the USA do not realize the incredible diversity of your country. Probably we don't realize the incredible diversity of our own country either. It keeps we Canadians at least a bit humble to remember that it was one of ours, Bob Goulet, who forgot some of the words to SSB at one of the Ali fights. Bet that isn't in the movie. Dave. Richard Johnson wrote: > Interesting points, Larry. I hate to see the National Anthem massacred also. > However, I don't think that the performers should be stifled in their > artistic interpretations. The USA is such a diverse country and as such, I > see no reason why the SSB cannot be sung with tinges of gospel, blues, > Irish, Scottish, Italian or Vietnamese influences. Those things don't make > me upset! I do get somewhat irritated with a classless interpretation of the > SSB.....Rosanne Barr comes to mind. I laughed until I cried when Carl Lewis > sang it one time, it was hilarious! However the USA would not be the USA > without people such as Rosanne Barr having the right to interpret the SSB, > even if the interpretation seems to me to be tasteless. The many > interpretations of the SSB reflect the diversity of our country. I would > hate to see it reduced to a set tempo, dynamics, etc. > On an unrelated note, I just finished listening to the Univerity Nebraska's > band play Sing, Sing, Sing in the halftime of the Rose Bowl. The trombones > and trumpets sound really GOOD! It appears, at half-time anyway, that the > band is a lot more proficient than the football team....27-0 in favor of > Miami, I think...at halftime! > > **************************************************************************** > ** > Richard Zemry Johnson, Jr. > "The Untouchables" Jazz Ensemble > Shreveport Metropolitan Concert Band > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > , > "There won't come a time when you won't have to practice anymore." > J. J. Johnson > > **************************************************************************** > ***** > I'm not satisfied with anything about my playing. I know what I want. I can > hear it; but it will take time and study to get it" > -Sonny Rollins > (1956) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry White" > To: "Trombones and related issues forum." > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:26 AM > Subject: Re: SS Banner > > > While we are on this subject, and it seems therehas been precious little > > Trombone subject, but I guess we all want to show our patriotism, be that > we > > live either north or south of the 49th, I for one cannot stand someone who > > massacres the National Anthems of our countries. > > They are hymns and should be respected as such. I do not mean that they > must > > be sombre and lull you to death, but sung / played as it was meant to be > > according to the music. > > The tempo /tempi should be moved along to encourage congregation / > audience > > participation, which I must say the Americans are much more willing to do > > than we in Canada. (Of course we are more can I say reserved? and hold > back > > our feelings.) Or is it that we are constantly losing our rights and we > have > > now got to the point that we say the heck with it and put up with what is > > thrown at us by our leader. Yes I say leader, for that it all we hear > from. > > Why does everybody who is out at centre ice and is given a microphone, > feel > > they have to trill every syllable of every word, and at the same time > change > > key while they are doing it, especially if singing without accompaniment? > > We used to have a great opera singer in Montreal, a fellow by the name of > > Roger Doucet who sang the National Anthem before most hockey games, and he > > sang it wonderfully, but he was an exception, rather than the rule. > > I am sure that even if we gave some of these young players nowadays some > > proper music written out as it should be played, that they would go and > blow > > it out on their own merry own way if given the chance for they don't see > it > > as a Tribute, but a Performance. > > Sad, is all I can say! > > Especially if it is a Trombone Choir. > > > > Good Night I must be getting cranky, listening too much to you Dave > Buckley! > > Happy New Year! > > > > Larry White > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 07:19:17 -0800 From: "Rod Ellard" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: McConnell charts Message-ID: <001b01c19533$2d970ff0$61cffea9@rodcomp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if Rob McConnell Boss Brass charts are available and, if so, where? Rod Ellard ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2259--