TROMBONE-L Digest 2244 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Armando Ghitalla by Steve Gamble 2) Re: Armando Ghitalla by Chris Waage 3) Re: Music by Gabriel Langfur 4) Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test by "Daniel Pliskin" 5) RE: Thanks Doug/tension by "Stephen Jones" 6) Re: Music by Chris Waage 7) Adam Collection update - now in Finale by Douglas Yeo 8) Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test by "Steve Beck" 9) new old trombone trios by Howard Weiner 10) 'Tis the Season by Bob Koester 11) Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test by Tom Izzo 12) Re: [TubaEuph] Dead Russian Composer Personality Test by "Gary D. Maxwell" 13) Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test by "Adrian Drover" 14) RE: Music by sabutin 15) RE: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test by "Guion, David" <8guion@jmls.edu> 16) MORE Trombone Music For Sale by Marta Hofacre 17) Thanks! by "Paul Hill" 18) Re: [TubaEuph] Dead Russian Composer Personality Test by "Daniel Pliskin" 19) RE: Music by "Daniel Pliskin" 20) Re: Thanks! by "Daniel Pliskin" 21) RE: Music by sabutin ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:29:38 -0700 From: Steve Gamble To: "Trombone List (E-mail)" Subject: Armando Ghitalla Message-ID: <01C18880.7309D460.sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OBITUARY In Tuesday's (12/18) Houston Chronicle, Charles Ward writes: "Armando Ghitalla, professor of trumpet at Rice University's Shepherd School of Music, died Friday in Houston from cardiac disease. He was 76." Ward writes, "His first major post was principal trumpet of the Houston Symphony (1949-1951). He then moved to the Boston Symphony Orchestra where he played until 1979. He became its principal trumpet in 1964. He taught at the University of Michigan School of Music until his retirement in 1994." Ghitalla joined the Rice faculty in 1994. Shepherd School dean Michael Hammond said, "Armando was a magnificent artist, teacher and gentleman," and added, "Every American trumpet player is his heir." ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:56:45 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: Armando Ghitalla Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" OBITUARY In Tuesday's (12/18) Houston Chronicle, Charles Ward writes: "Armando Ghitalla, professor of trumpet at Rice University's Shepherd School of Music, died Friday in Houston from cardiac disease. He was 76." Ward writes, "His first major post was principal trumpet of the Houston Symphony (1949-1951). He then moved to the Boston Symphony Orchestra where he played until 1979. He became its principal trumpet in 1964. He taught at the University of Michigan School of Music until his retirement in 1994." Ghitalla joined the Rice faculty in 1994. Shepherd School dean Michael Hammond said, "Armando was a magnificent artist, teacher and gentleman," and added, "Every American trumpet player is his heir." Sad news, indeed. With the passing of every musical legend, it pays to take time to reflect on how our lives were touched by their brilliance and to remember that each note we play was shaped in some way by those who came before us. Chris -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage, Associate Webmaster chris@trombone.org http://www.trombone.org - A web site for trombonists ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Music Message-ID: <20011219192932.17790.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- jimandcat@juno.com wrote: > So how do we get them involved? They just have to "be" > there when "it" > happens. I have noticed that younger you are (no > preconcieved attitudes > or peer influences) the more you respect the musical > encounter. But I > have also seen teenagers and young adults suddenly come > aware of how > fantastic an experience a musical performance is. Don't > matter if it is > Strauss or Jerry Garcia or (gasp) Madonna, if it strikes > you in the very > soul of your being, it probably is the power of music. > > The music of the spheres. > > I'll shut up now. I may be way off base here, but I often think that the Young Audiences/School/Family shows I do in the orchestras I play in are poorly planned, poorly designed, and generally assume that the kids in the audience have no attention span whatsoever. Every effort is made to interest them in something other than the music being performed - it seems like it is hoped that an appreciation for the music will just sort of sneak in on the coattails of the Carmen Sandiego plot or the energetic actor talking to the kids between each number. Everybody has to do these shows to be eligible for this or that funding, so we're all trying...but mostly they seem to be a waste of time. I wonder what would happen if we REALLY started treating kids with some respect, not assuming the worst about their interest level and ability to pay attention for more than a minute at a time. gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:38:20 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Try this: http://www.angelfire.com/va/randomlyweird/russcomp.html > Here's a link to a neat quiz: if you were a Dead Russian Composer, who would you be? Take the test and find out! (I'd be Shostakovich, if anyone's wondering...) I was convinced that Iâd be called an imposter, because I didnÎt answer Vodka to every question, but I turned out to be Igor Stravinsky. Were his headaches because of caffeine overdose, like mine, or did he just abuse his brain? DanP _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:40:57 -0500 From: "Stephen Jones" To: Subject: RE: Thanks Doug/tension Message-ID: <001901c188c5$147d10c0$f0585582@library.lib.umbc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to add my thanks to Doug Yeo for his website, and especially the suggestion to seat the trombone between the 3rd and fourth fingers of the left hand rather than the way I have always held it. I don't play bass trombone, but my hands are not gargantuan, and my hand immediately felt more comfortable when I tried it. At the risk of eliciting "Oh here we go again" comments, I would now like to ask for the collegial wisdom of this forum about holding the slide in the right hand. Although it's too long ago now to remember, I believe my teacher, Mr. Ernest Lyon, recommended holding the slide between the thumb and first finger with the other digits parallel to one another and perpendicular to the body. After reading one of Sam Burtis' articles touching on this subject, I found that holding the slide with thumb and 2nd finger but with fingers 3-5 cupped and pointing in my direction felt and played better. I imagine that this is something of an "if it feels good/works well for you do it that way" sort of topic. But since I'm not sure, I thought I'd ask. Thank you. Stephen Jones ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:53:09 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: Music Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" So how do we get them involved? They just have to "be" there when "it" happens. I have noticed that younger you are (no preconcieved attitudes or peer influences) the more you respect the musical encounter. But I have also seen teenagers and young adults suddenly come aware of how fantastic an experience a musical performance is. Don't matter if it is Strauss or Jerry Garcia or (gasp) Madonna, if it strikes you in the very soul of your being, it probably is the power of music. Music has to be made accessable and enjoyable. Forcing kids to go to a concert for which they are completely unprepared usually has a negative, rather than a positive effect. The Kansas City Symphony used to have (and may still have) an outreach program that would work with the local music teachers to get cheap (and sometimes comp) tickets into the hands of the students, along with information to help them relate to the music. Look at it from a different aspect: I have spent my entire life speaking Martian, and I know no other language. Suddenly, a friend says, "Let's go to this movie. It's in Jovian - you'll love it!" I have never heard the Jovian tongue, or known someone from Jupiter, but now I'm expected to follow the plot and enjoy the movie. substitute "listening to pop music " for "speaking Martian", "concert" for "movie", and "classical" for "in Jovian", and you'll see how some kids feel when they're suddenly dropped into a symphony concert. A few months ago, someone posted a humorous definition of music genres. For "Classical," the definition was, "come hear the 45 minutes that wasn't in the commercial." Most students relate to what they hear and experience on a daily basis - TV, radio, school, the mall, etc. In the average household, how often would their TV be showing a program of orchestral music? In my house, ask my 5 year old what his favorite CD is, and he'll respond, "The Firebird." OK - a litle parental programming has taken place ;-) If we want people to appreciate that which we love, we have to be evangelical in our approach. Not an in-your-face approach, though, but a slow, well-planned approach that eases people into the music. You can't grab someone who has no concept of classical music, say, "Listen to this!!! You'll love it!!!" and then play Messian's "Quartet for the End of Time" and expect a positive response. You have to whet their appetite with something they'll understand. How many non-musicians recognize anything from William Tell other than the part they used in "The Lone Ranger"? It takes someone with knowledge, care, and patience to nurture a love for music in others. It can't be forced upon them. My high school German teacher did this to me - I was talking about how much I liked the soundtrack to "The Empire Strikes Back," and he said, "You might like this, too!" and loand me a copy of Bruno Walter conducts Wagner. He saw the opening, and started me down the path . . . One of my co-workers mentioned how much he enjoyed "The Patriot" soundtrack, so I loaned him some other John Williams. After that, he said, "What else would you recommend? I have always wanted to listen to classical, but I just don't know where to start." I started him with Brahms, Beethoven and Bach, and he has started picking up things on his own. He's a computer programmer, and he now enjoys programming listening to Bach's "B Minor Mass." ;-) Chris -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage, Associate Webmaster chris@trombone.org http://www.trombone.org - A web site for trombonists ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:16:33 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Adam Collection update - now in Finale Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Shortly after I put the Eugene Adam Collection of Solos for Trombone on my website, trombonist Thomas W. Cox emailed to say that while he enjoyed playing from Adam's original manuscript, he would like permission to transcribe the solos into Finale music notation format for easier reading. I was happy to give him the green light, and the happy result is that as Thomas completes a solo in Finale, I will put it up on my website as a free, downloadable .pdf file. In this way, we will have the best of all possible worlds: Adam's original manuscript AND a faithful, clear transcription in modern notation. These movements will be uploaded one at a time as Thomas finishes them; it will take some time for them all to appear, but I want to thank Thomas for his help with this and I hope those who are interested will find this additional resource useful. You can find the Adam Collection at: http://www.yeodoug.com/adamcollection.html -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:58:54 -0500 From: "Steve Beck" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test Message-ID: <00fc01c188d8$5b9e50a0$8f320923@cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Daniel Pliskin" > I was convinced that I'd be called an imposter, because I didn't answer > Vodka to every question, but I turned out to be Igor Stravinsky. I was "Dmitri Shostakovich" which I take issue with. (Harry Potter glasses indeed.) FYI - answering "vodka" everywhere makes you W.C. Fields but because some have questioned his standing as a Russian composer (although they do admit he is dead) the answer defaults to "Modest Mussorgsky" I found this quiz to be very timely. Although of German decent, I evidently look to be more eastern European. Quite often, usually during difficult passages, people have asked if I was Rushin'. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:01:48 From: Howard Weiner To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: new old trombone trios Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20011219230148.111fd6ae@mail.sampo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Friends, After a long hiatus I've finally managed to bring out another edition of unknown trombone music: Francois RenŽ Gebauer, Six Trios Brass Urtext Editions Musicales EuropŽennes, Paris EME 018280 Please note that these trios were expressly written for trombones, and are not transcriptions. They first appeared ca. 1795 in a volume of trombone etudes published in Paris. Gebauer was active as a bassoonist (Paris Opera) and teacher (Paris Conservatory), and was a prolific composer. As far as I know, his trios are the only examples of 18th-century trombone ensemble music (excepting the Moravian trombone choir stuff). I assume (hope) that the edition will be available in the US from the usual sources. Howard -- Howard Weiner weiner@privat.toplink.de http://www.odilia.ch/howard-weiner "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" - attributed to Frank Zappa "Beschriebene Musik ist wie ein erzŠhltes Mittagessen" - Franz Grillparzer zugeschrieben ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:12:37 -0600 From: Bob Koester To: TROMBONE-L@po.MISSOURI.EDU Subject: 'Tis the Season Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20011219211237.0084b100@mail.spidertel.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear friends, Seeing the news of Mr. Ghitalla's passing has led me to think quickly about the past year and all the good and not so good that has happened over the last twelve months. Without expounding much it seems sufficient to say it has been a trying year in many ways, yet a year of tremendous growth and opportunities for fulfillment. Best wishes to all. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Season's Greetings. I sincerely hope that 2002 brings (collectively) you and yours good things, good experiences (musical and otherwise) and the strength to weather whatever storms develop. 'Tis the Season, Bob _______________________ bob koester mediation services, inc. bkoester@fixbusinessdebt.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:02:29 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Izzo To: wbarrett@bestweb.net, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test Message-ID: <20011220040229.20677.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hahahahahahahah Pretty Funny Walter. You must have too much time on his hands. LOL Tom (Polevetsian Dancing off into the sunset) --- Walter Barrett wrote: > > > > > Try this: > http://www.angelfire.com/va/randomlyweird/russcomp.html ===== Tom Izzo Bass & ContraBass Trombonist Dir of Naperville Area Trombone Ensemble (630) 983-1985 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:13:16 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: "Peter Eiden" , "Art Triggs" , Subject: Re: [TubaEuph] Dead Russian Composer Personality Test Message-ID: <002701c18925$ce2aef00$57525d3f@garymaxwell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Walter Barrett" > > Try this: http://www.angelfire.com/va/randomlyweird/russcomp.html > > > Here's a link to a neat quiz: if you were a Dead Russian Composer, who would > you be? Take the test and find out! (I'd be Shostakovich, if anyone's > wondering...) ====================================== Fun sight! I came out as Stravinsky. All the best, Gary Maxwell ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:31:42 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: "Steve Beck" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test Message-ID: <00c601c18952$65be04c0$0a7e68d5@homedmpbgvaomg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Steve Beck" > FYI - answering "vodka" everywhere makes you W.C. Fields That's the guy who said "I don't drink water because fish pee in it". Was he a Russion composer too? I'm not trying the quiz in case I end up as Mike Gorbachov. Adrian ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:23:40 -0500 From: sabutin To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: RE: Music Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1203264270==_ma============" ---snip--- David Guion wrote: On the other hand, and this is what prompted my comment that you have to get them to listen, I briefly taught a humanities survey and decided not to put any restrictions on what kind of musical experience students reported on. So of course I got some reports on rock concerts. I read about mosh pits, the smell of burning marijuana, the excitement (or fear) of being part of a large crowd, the light shows, the volume level, people dancing or taking off their clothes--in short, everything but what music was played and what it sounded like. I don't recall any of the students who wrote about rock concerts mentioning the name of a single song or trying to describe it. Does anyone have a musical experience at that kind of concert? I would like to assume so, but over a space of two years, apparently none of my humanities students did. Using music as background is nothing new. After all, the effects pioneered by the Mannheim orchestra 250 years ago were devised to draw the audience's attention away from the gaming tables and make them pay attention to the music, at least for a while. But nowadays, some people have background music on all the time, and everyone is subjected to it whether they want it or not. (I just read about someone being treated to "As Time Goes By" while on hold. At least it was an appropriate selection!) And what do we do with all of this background music? We usually tune it out. So what happens when we put on a record or go to a concert? It becomes difficult not to lapse into the habit of tuning it out. When lots of visual, tactile, and olfactory stimulation is added to the concert experience, not all of which is on stage with the music, I'm sure it's even more difficult not to tune it out. I tell my music appreciation students that that is the whole point of the class--to give them an opportunity to reclaim the lost art of listening to music. ======================= For most of us...and I don't have a satisfactory explanation for this, it's just a lifelong observation...listening to (and hearing...I'll get into that later) music is a facility that we lose at about 6 years of age. A child can listen to music and absolutely lose himself in it for minutes at a time. No effort...the kid's just gone. In comparison, most adult musicians, let alone "civilians", have a let's-get-lost attention span of only a few seconds. I suppose around 5 or 6 is the age the "mind' begins to really come into serious play, and we ALL know you have to completely LOSE your mind to be a musician. (Only half a joke there, friends. Maybe less...read on.) Yet the majority of us can "get lost" in a book, a movie, a play, reading the newspaper, watching TV, doing carpentry, cooking, having a conversation, studying, driving...for MUCH longer periods of time. "Listening"...the conscious act of concentrating on music...is a learned (or at least willed) activity for most adults, and even those who CAN do this sometimes don't actually "hear" much...they're too busy trying to listen. The only arts I can think of that have a similar problem are the static visual arts like painting + sculpture. I believe that this has to due with an almost completely survivalist physical/emotional/mental human system. These two arts have very little to do w/survival in the wild, After all, you have to remember that we are still genetically and physically set up just like our hunter/gatherer ancestors; in terms of evolution we're only about five minutes away from having to be on the lookout for dangerous animals and hostile humans 24/7. So...we can watch Michael Jordan or a Brian DePalma flick, read a novel or consider the daily news w/a certain depth of concentration, because those activities in some direct way SATISFY OUR BIOCHEMICALLY MANDATED NEED TO SURVIVE. There's bodily motion, plot, adventure, winning + losing. Same w/manual activities like carpentry or cooking to some degree, same w/driving. You don't build that lean-to, cook that mastodon, you;re outta here. Ride your horse into a canyon, let it trip on a gopher hole...no AAA to call... However, listening to music or "looking" (once again, as opposed to "seeing"...same idea as listening/hearing) at art has almost zero survival value. You want to know about "listening" AND "hearing? You're all alone in your house, just about to fall asleep, and suddenly, you clearly hear furtive footsteps outside your bedroom. THAT'S listening. Why? Because it's your ass if you don't. It's also "hearing". You weren't "listening" for those footsteps; you just naturally heard them. THEN you start listening, and you don't indulge in any intellectual diversions or mental gymnastics about HOW you're listening either. You're listening and hearing on a higher level than you were when you FIRST heard them. Because it's your ass if you don't. "Looking" + "seeing"? Same deal. You're walking through a neighborhood where you know there is a particularly nasty, sneaky dog. It's dusk, and behind a forsythia bush you think maybe you "see" something. You stop, and you "look" at that unmoving picture. I submit that if most people were capable of "looking" at a Van Gogh (or "listened" to Charlie Parker or Bach) w/the same level of attention as they might pay in the aforementioned examples, the problem of serious art musicians (and serious visual artists as well) being generally dissed by the society would disappear of itself. However...this is not going to happen. Soooo...what to do, what to do... As always, FIRST thing to do is work on yourself. I mean really, let's be honest here. (Joan Rivers..."Can we talk"?) How deeply do you...musicians all,,,REALLY HEAR THE MUSIC? Both when you're playing and when you're not, but particularly when you're not? ("Playing" has some of that same survivalist characteristic...it's a physical, manual act that involves the whole body, and at least for the pros and serious conservatory style music students, if you don't concentrate on at least SOME level, it is once again your ass if you don't. You don't listen, no wild tapir steaks on the campfire THAT night.) How many seconds can you generally seriously listen to complex art music w/out a SINGLE, SOLITARY WORD WANDERING THROUGH YOUR MIND? Not long, I'm betting. I don't believe the answer to this question has devolved much over time, either...maybe a little, due to the media saturated sensory overload in which we all live today, but my grandfather didn't even watch TY in the '50s, barely turned on a radio and grew up a horseman and son of a fisherman in a rural area...HE couldn't pay attention to music EITHER. Nice man, smart man; he could take one look at a horse and tell you things about it that might never have found out otherwise; he could tell stories in astounding detail about his adventures as a young man, instruct you in the art and craft of horse saddles until you wanted to SCREAM...his wife knew things about the subtleties of baking bread or making oyster stew that you will NEVER find on the internet...but MOZART ? FUGGEDABOUDIT !!! 10 seconds and they were G_O_N_E gone. No survival value...did not compute. David's music appreciation students at their rock concerts are quite properly extending this ancient human tradition. Music has very little practical survival value...but "mosh pits, the smell of burning marijuana, the excitement (or fear) of being part of a large crowd, the light shows, the volume level, people dancing or taking off their clothes"...now THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT !!! THAT'S an "artistic" representation of war, of danger, of sex (reproduction being the single BIGGEST "survivalist" issue to the human being). So...that's what they crave. Mozart??? 10 seconds and out. So...y'gotta lose your mind in order to really hear. Lose that automatic "mind" that is concerned w/survival, at the very LEAST...which coincidentally is a very good description of the act of meditation. Music appreciation as instruction on meditation for civilians. Now THERE'S an idea... BUT...in order to teach that, WE have to learn it first. Hmmmm...where IS that Mozart CD I was listening to last night...??? You know, the one I fell asleep to...??? Later... S. P.S. Of course, you COULD try to make listening to music as important as defending against armed invaders or saber toothed tigers...but that would entail putting your ass on the line on a whole 'nother wavelength... Naaaaahhhh...forget I even MENTIONED it.... ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:57:50 -0600 From: "Guion, David" <8guion@jmls.edu> To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Dead Russian Composer Personality Test Message-ID: <47763CCCA27C4F4FA4BEF7DDB754A1E7124973@marshall.jmls.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > I was convinced that I'd be called an imposter, because I didn't answer > Vodka to every question, but I turned out to be Igor Stravinsky. Were his > > headaches because of caffeine overdose, like mine, or did he just abuse > his > brain? > I think if you had answered "vodka" to every question, you'd be Modest Mussorgsky, but I haven't tested that idea. Actually, I answered the questionnaire three different ways and always came up as Stravinsky. Oh well, he's my favorite ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ David Guion, Cataloging Librarian The John Marshall Law School 315 S. Plymouth Ct. Chicago, IL 60604 Voice: (312) 427-2737 x 552 Fax; (312) 427-8307 8guion@jmls.edu Should part-time band directors be called semi-conductors? Quidquid latine dictum sit, profundum viditur. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:16:53 +0800 From: Marta Hofacre To: TROMBONE-L@po.MISSOURI.EDU Subject: MORE Trombone Music For Sale Message-ID: <3C213C04.CAFAB32@usm.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even MORE music for sale: mostly Tenor Trombone Methods & Solos but also Brass Quintets and Bass Trombone. Priced to sell -- most less than half current list prices. See <http://www.ebicom.net/~mhofacre/musicforsale.html> for information. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:40:42 -0800 From: "Paul Hill" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Thanks! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0003_01C18942.C5BB0720" BoneHeads, Thanks *SO MUCH* for your kind words, greetings and congratulations following the birth of our second Daughter, Elisabeth! It is so nice to belong to a community such as ours who really care for one another!!! I have printed your posts and will be putting them in her baby book - her life is off to a great start with so many friends! Mother and Daughter resting comfortably at home...Dad (Me!) frantically searching for food and laundry to take care of Daughter number one...what a terrific Christmas this will be! (in other words, I am quickly learning how significant Mom is to the smooth and efficient running of our household!). Okay, pre-school is X, Ballet is Y and gymnastics is Z...let's go! "No, Daddy...that's not the way Mommy does it"! Trombone content: I asked number one again if she will, someday, beÊa Trombonist, "Oh Daddy, it too loud and I *JUST* a little girl"! For number two: do you suppose that if I place my shoebox full of old mouthpieces under her crib, with the shanks pointing UP, that she will gain anything through osmosis? Well, it was just a thought... Back to the garage for practice, so as not to wake a sleeping baby... Thanks again, Folks! Paul Paul Hill Bass Tbn Middletown, RI ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:02:04 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: [TubaEuph] Dead Russian Composer Personality Test Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > Here's a link to a neat quiz: if you were a Dead Russian Composer, who would > you be? ====================================== Fun sight! I came out as Stravinsky. All the best, Gary Maxwell Now hold on there, Gary. Iâm Stravinsky! And I got there first! So youâll just have to find another composer to be. DanP _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:55:34 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: RE: Music Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed "Listening"...the conscious act of concentrating on music...is a learned (or at least willed) activity for most adults, and even those who CAN do this sometimes don't actually "hear" much...they're too busy trying to listen. The only arts I can think of that have a similar problem are the static visual arts like painting + sculpture. In a master class, a few years ago, Conrad Herwig talked about putting on a CD, turning off the lights and just sitting there, in the dark, listening to music. It sounds like a very strange thing to do, until you realize that youâd do that for any dreadful TV show. Yet when we listen to music, itâs generally only background music to a conversation, or other activity. When you tell a friend, ãHey check this outä, they listen to a couple of bars and start talking. Only if you crank the volume up beyond the threshold of pain, does the music suddenly becomes all-consuming. I wonder if that would also happen with queazy-listening and newage? DanP _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:59:53 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Thanks! Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Paul, do you suppose that if I place my shoebox full of old mouthpieces under her crib, with the shanks pointing UP, that she will gain anything through osmosis? I think itâs safe to assume that whatever she calls ãmusicä, in her teens, will turn your stomach. You canât imagine the mixed feelings I had when I discovered a bunch of my favorite CDs scattered all over my daughterâs room, at college. At least the girl has good taste, although theyâre probably not worth trying to copy, at this point. DanP _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:27:22 -0500 From: sabutin To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: RE: Music Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Listening"...the conscious act of concentrating on music...is a learned (or at least willed) activity for most adults, and even those who CAN do this sometimes don't actually "hear" much...they're too busy trying to listen. The only arts I can think of that have a similar problem are the static visual arts like painting + sculpture. In a master class, a few years ago, Conrad Herwig talked about putting on a CD, turning off the lights and just sitting there, in the dark, listening to music. It sounds like a very strange thing to do, until you realize that youâd do that for any dreadful TV show. Yet when we listen to music, itâs generally only background music to a conversation, or other activity. When you tell a friend, ãHey check this outä, they listen to a couple of bars and start talking. Only if you crank the volume up beyond the threshold of pain, does the music suddenly becomes all-consuming. I wonder if that would also happen with queazy-listening and newage? DanP ============== Personally I literally cannot listen to music on any appreciable level w/out closing my eyes. Can't even PLAY, really. (Makes sight reading a little difficult, but...there'y'are...) S. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2244--